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Archive / Re: Constitutional Amendment Act (2018)
« on: January 13, 2018, 03:37:35 AM »
boooo get off the stage
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I'm just going to make an observation on trade routes - below is the map showing the main two trade routes between Achkaerin and Gowu (there are two others that go west out of Achkaerin and take different routes but they're surplus to the point I'm trying to make.)
The red route is the most commonly used one because it's the quickest and safest one. By contrast the geographical position of Achkaerin close to Hrothgar makes the purple route treacherous in the early stages and considering during the war that Weremark was on the Abydos side it's likely that in addition to climate concerns from Hrothgar that Weremark naval vessels may have been harassing around the top end of Aranye threatening that route.
The red route passes through the Mhorish hence the threat against the trade route with Ardian control of the Mhorish area. So please if people are going to use trade routes as a reason for involvement please can you please make sure that they would be under threat? Because I would point out that Quintelia sending supplies to Gowu does not constitute a route going through the Mhorish.
Just thought of something which may mean a slight alteration - at the end of our Great War period there's going to be a peace treaty (probably negotiated and signed in early 1946) now given that that period includes the falling apart of the Quenye and Ardian Empires we're going to have self determination rights in there somewhere due to the amount of states either coming into existence or being freed from those Empires. I'm just not sure that thirty years later the same nations that negotiated that treaty are going to turn around and impose a monarchy on Coanchua. I can see Marigold being about the establishment of a constitution and state for Coanchua that may in some way be at odds with local elements and culture but I don't think any agreement is going to ostracize them because if it did then Rodina goes in by the back door.Hmm, this can work timeline wise, however for this to currently work Marigold would have to have a few regulatory standards on Coanchua, limiting it as an independent state and for the monarch to be seen as a puppet. Living conditions also can't be well, something along the way has to throw a kink in the Marigold Accord like perhaps Royal Seleucid supporting it, a former state that brought slaves to Coanchua and fought the Kaiop pirates.
Basically I think Marigold has to be a sound agreement that establish's a self determined government with international oversight (this being the 'monarch' who ensures the neutrality) but gets exploited by the people that get elected into government for example.
Country full Name: Holy Empire of AchkaerinI like this explanation better than the genocide, it could also be that there was a growing piracy issue in reaction to occupation.
Role Played in Coanchua's History: Having fought the Ardian's in the Great War - given Gowu's position it was important to keep the supply lines open and contain the Ardian naval threat as much as possible leading to a decisive battle in 1937 where the Ardian's flagship was sunk, this combined with Sutherland success two years earlier in the Channel Campaign effectively ended the Ardian threat on the seas, allowing more forceful advances on land. Considering the importance of the trade route through the channels Achkaerin would obviously be interested in ensuring the continuation of that trade route especially with the rise of the USR bloc during the cold war years.
Modern Stance: With the USR having since fallen (though now resurgent) Achkaerin would view Marigold as a less critical treaty than it originally was, and would probably favor independence for Conchua though obviously preferred through peaceful means not an armed rebellion. Chances are Achkaerin would look for a renegotiated Marigold but accounting for a self determined Conchua potentially up to and including helping the Conchuan's develop a sustainable system.
More Details/Ideas: Quick point but Great war runs 1913-1945 as Sutherland's rebellion is the trigger - unless the rebellion is in December in which case 1914 is fine.
Now just a thought (and I don't know how much mileage there is in this) but given the timing of 1976 as Cold War era and with instability in Conchua I would like to suggest that we perhaps factor the likely fear among some nations that Conchua could become an outpost of the USR bloc, I know it may not be ideological come 2017 but in the 1970's that could be a potential reason to drive the Marigold talks into existence (this may be preferable to the genocide as a trigger but I don't know how critical that is).
On the subject of Marigold I'm also happy to suggest that Achkaerin played a major role in drafting the Accord and the actual talks and if you're up for it Gad I'm happy to offer up an Achkaerinese noble to be the present Head of State (albeit a somewhat powerless one due to the corrupt government) though if that's pursued I'd like to avoid a King/Queen title and would suggest a Duke or Duchess given that this was an installed position I doubt they'd be equal to other heads of state or that other nations would go that far, but this is just me thinking out loud.
Country full Name: Ecclesiastical State
Role Played in Coanchua's History: ES entered the anti-Ardia side at the beginning of the Great War after the Pope sent a military force to aid the Sutherian revolutionaries against their colonial opressor the Ardian Empire, in one of the last and pivotal battles in 1913, (assuming) one year before the official start of the Great War. Throughout this bloody era, ES had to send military support due to the nation's values which included the need for christian unity, even more when it came to fellow catholic nations. Considering the importance of the trade route through the channels ES would obviously be interested in ensuring the continuation of that trade route as well, especially with the rise of the USR bloc during the cold war years. As of now, one of the anti-Ardian allies, Vaguzia, would have allowed for the ES navy, marines, air force etc. to make stop-overs in their former colonial island San Esperito, thus securing a possible spot for refueling and replenishing.
Modern Stance: ES had developed a neutral stance towards the Marigold treaty, considering the fact that it would being that region more stability and order if it wouldn't act in favor towards any of the two Cold-war blocks, although similarly to Achkaerin's stance, realise more than ever that independence for Conchua is more than inevitable and should be pursued although obviously preferred through peaceful means, not an armed rebellion, perhaps a re-negotiation of that treaty if possible.
More Details/Ideas: I would also like to make the suggestion that ES was part of the nations who drafted the Marigold Accords, unless of course you prefer just one nation which would more than likely be Achkaerin. Perhaps a papal visit during the cold war would have been part of calming things down in that region, as well as a modern one?
I'll make an app for Balticum once Saheri. done his first!
Country full Name: Kingdom of Greater and Lesser FoxtroveThe light support thing is fine until we reach Foxtrove wanting control of the Channels, that doesn't make such sense considering you're most southern country from them. Work with the Marigold alliance to lend support, talk to Ach and others OOCly.
Role Played in Coanchua's History: During the Great War, Foxtrove played a backseat role during the early and mid war stages however, when it became clear that the Ardian Empire was going to lose in Coanchua, Foxtrove began to support the rebels fighting them. This was through weapons and ammo for the rebels, although they mainly gave it to ultra-nationalist and/or fascist groups. After the war concluded, the kingdom became pro-Marigold.
Modern Stance: Foxtrove remains "pro"-Marigold although they would rather control the channel themselves or at the very least a puppet-state.