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International News Networks / Re: Rokkenjima Broadcasting Corporation (RBC)
« Last post by Beatrice on April 14, 2024, 03:01:56 AM »


Kōshaku Rhodes Heads To Seaforth


With the drama unfolding in Troyes Evanthe Rhodes has been dispatched to the Kingdom of Seaforth.

The Empress has dispatched Kōshaku Rhodes to the Kingdom of Seaforth to discuss the situation presently unfolding in Troyes. "Let me be clear in no uncertain terms that Rokkenjima stands by its security commitments to the Kingdom of Seaforth, and we thus urge all foreign powers to act responsibly in regards to Troyes," the Kōshaku shared with the RBC. "The Imperial Rokkenjiman Navy will be in position to monitor the situation and, if called upon, to assist our allies should the need to do so arise. We must also respect that any foreign presence in Troyes must be brought to an end, yet that goal must be accomplished through legitimate means. Propping up a self-proclaimed republic that lacks recognition from even Marseilles to accomplish that goal, and using that self-proclaimed republic to operate in Marseilles waters, likely in violation of the Free Seas Concordat, is not the path to a Troyes which is ultimately reunited with Marseilles, however."

Kōshaku Rhodes reiterated the irritations of Chrysanthemum Throne on how the situation has unfolded. "We were not consulted prior to the present actions being undertaken. When Rokkenjima joined with the other members of the ADSN to issue the Joint Statement on Troyes we expected a path forward which was unified; this, by definition, has not been the path we ascribed to in regards to Troyes. While Rokkenjima will continue to support the path toward a reunification between Troyes and Marseilles we will not turn our back on our treaty partners, nor will we set aside international norms and standards to reach the end of that path. Indeed, while I travel to Seaforth the Empress is seeing that business is addressed before the ADSN to rectify this situation and ensure that the peace and prosperity of the Dauntel-Shaw region is maintained."

"Whereas before the ADSN pursued this issue as a united front we've seen that front fractured due to recent events. My duties in Seaforth will be three fold: to ensure that we coordinate with the Kingdom to ensure the situation does not spiral out of control, to establish a path for Troyes to see an internationally monitored and endorsed referendum as to their future, and to reiterate Rokkenjima's position as a defense partner of the Kingdom. While much will be expected of Seaforth, likewise, we'll need to see actions from Aosta and Abertone which reaffirms a path toward a peaceful reintegration of Troyes, in line with the ADSN and the Joint Statement. I would suggest, for a start, that foreign naval vessels do not operate within the territorial waters of Marseilles without the explicit permission of Marseilles, who are the only ones who may legitimately authorize such vessels to operate in their waters."

Kōshaku Rhodes, aboard the Imperial Concorde, is set to touch down in Seaforth in the coming hours.
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"Oh for..." Isabella Watson said from where she sat, there were days she really missed being the Achkaerinese ambassador to the CIS and this was one of them, "First let's not start speculating as to the actions of another nation around this table, second let's not make threats against each other it's not going to help the situation, it's not going to advance things, it's not going to help deliver Troyes back to Marseilles where it belongs." she took a moment to let out a breath and compose herself

"Now whether we like it or not this has happened, and whether we like it or not there is a significant amount of truth to what all three of you have said." she looked at each of the three representatives who had spoken "What matters is what we do now. As our Rokkenjiman friend has pointed out we now face the very real possibility that King Andrew will look at this situation, note exactly as we have the sovereignty issue and treat this as what it legally could be construed as from his perspective which is terrorism and therefore a criminal act, equally while we're on that point this is arguably terrorism, separatism or insurrection, take your pick on appearance against Marseilles, however given the man is a national hero in Marseilles I doubt that'll ever be how he's viewed. Ms Gianna quoted Mr McKenna saying "a decision the Imperial Government does not recognize as holding any legal basis" in respect of the protectorate status, Mr McKenna is correct because the Marseilles Government never signed off on such an agreement, it is therefore a land grab. That point also holds in respect of the current situation, we have a self proclaimed republic that has not been granted sovereignty over that land by the Marseilles Government who we, as a collective body, have asserted to be the legal owner, the Seaforth protectorate has no legal basis, the Republic of Troyes has no legal basis.

Mr Ferraro is correct in terms of wanting to take further steps however I say politely let's just hold our horses and line this up. There's no value putting measures in place that actually make it harder to get through Seaforth's front door. I will inform you that Empress Serenity is presently enroute to Seaforth to talk to King Andrew about this matter, as Ms Gianna observes previous efforts haven't gone anywhere so the hope is that pressure may be applied with current circumstances. However I will caution you that no one should expect the Cantona roadmap to get any traction in that room, but the Empress is one of the most experienced negotiators on Mundus so there is reason to be optimistic. At the same time Achkaerin has another diplomat traveling to talk to President Sauzee and Prime Minister Deschamps, our hope is to get a referendum lined up that's acceptable to all parties - not the one that Cantona has proposed because we don't think that'll go anywhere with Seaforth and any peaceful resolution to this situation needs Seaforth to play ball. So with that in mind let's look at what we can do." she put a piece of paper with a fair bit of hasty writing on the table.

Quote from: Proposed ASDN Troyes Diplomatic Action Plan

The Membership of the ASDN in reaffirming their stance in respect of and now being concerned about the developing situation in Troyes caused by the continued Seaforthian presence, proposes the following course of action with intent of helping resolve the Troyes matter:

1. The ultilisation of diplomatic ties to calm current tensions related to Troyes and to not inflame the current situation further.

2. A referendum be held on the 1st of July 2024, the question and arrangements to be worked out through negotiations between the Marseilles Government and Seaforth, with ASDN mediating such negotiations as required

3. ASDN to independently monitor the referendum. Governments of Marseilles and Government of Seaforth to agree to abide by the result.

4. In the event of Marseilles sovereignty prevailing, there shall be a transition of sovereignty and a withdrawal of Seaforth military personnel monitored and verified by the ASDN. This to be concluded no later that 30th September 2024.

5. Seaforthian written and signed agreement to points 2-4 is expected no later than midnight on the 1st of May 2024. (OOC note - Subject to Dave's availability etc)

"This I believe encompasses where we are right now - when the ASDN was formed we made that initial declaration, the deadline for that declarations terms is two weeks out" Isabella said "So in essence this course of action serves two purposes, it uses the time we have available and the current situation to apply diplomatic pressure and hopefully make progress with the Seaforthians. However while I'm sure that Empress Serenity and whoever Rokkenjima sends will do their best to get Seaforth's agreement, we can't have further escalations happening that might prejudice such negotiations, so for that I believe we will be relying on the Aostan's communication line to keep things calm. There is a finality to a referendum, Ms Gianna is correct it is likely a formality in this instance but having it is going to be the most likely way this ends peacefully. Going back to Mr Ferraro's point now, the question becomes what happens if we get to the first of May and Seaforth hasn't produced the requested document? This is where we should consider further steps, such as these." she now put another paper in the table.

Quote from: ASDN Action Plan from 1st May 2024 (not for public release until post implementation)

In the event that the Kingdom of Seaforth has not produced the signed agreement requested of it by midnight on the 1st of May 2024 the ASDN agrees to the following steps in relation to the Kingdom of Seaforth.

1. The immediate suspension by Rokkenjima and Achkaerin of all treaty provisions with Seaforth.

2. The ASDN shall blockade the port of Troyes, the blockade to be effected in accordance with provisions laid out in maritime convention and law. This blockade shall not infringe requested Aostan patrols nor passage of humanitarian aid.

3. The freezing of all Seaforthian assets held within the jurisdiction of the ASDN, Rishiri and Achkaerinese territory.

4. (insert further proposals here)

"We're all familiar with the term carrot and stick. We're all committed to seeing the Troyes matter settled, we want it to be peacefully done, but failing that it needs to be clear that the line has been crossed and that there will be consequences if Seaforth tries to maintain, without consent of the people, control over Troyes." Isabel said "A blockade would be a step or two higher than what Mr Ferraro suggested with a boycott, however the intent is the same to make Troyes less profitable for Seaforth, it does carry a risk factor but also sends a powerful message."
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"The time to utilize Rokkenjiman and Achkaerinese ties with Seaforth was before, not during or after, these present actions. If a stray bolt of lightning were to hit a Seaforthian and they could somehow successfully tie it to one of your nations you'd see the Imperial Rokenjiman Navy and I'd hazard the Achkaerinese raining down fire against your nations, a situation I believe none of us desires. Whilst the Empires of Aosta and Abertone may hold commitments to each other above and beyond the ADSN I'd be remiss to remind you that Rokkenjima holds ties to Seaforth above and beyond the ADSN and, where we've given our word to defend those we've shed blood alongside, we will uphold that commitment if it is requested upon us by the Seaforthians. This series of actions would have been stronger and more successful if the whole of the ADSN were behind it, we now sit with a situation where, if circumstances go one way or another, Rokkenjima will be treaty bound to defend those who we'd otherwise be mutually opposed to holding a presence in the region."

"I would add that, as the self proclaimed Republic is not indeed sovereign that it is the waters of Marsielles which are being patrolled and, as I have no knowledge of Marseilles issuing such a request we are treading the fine lines of international law on this matter. This is not a concern just of the First Empire but also one shared by other ADSN nations, and while we will talk to Seaforth it will not be in a light of a unified ADSN; they'll have undoubtedly seen our previous remarks on the issue before us. The difference between Rokkenjima's visit to Clysperis and the situation before us is one of those situations did not have far reaching consequences for our region, and I'll simply leave it at that."
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Raffaello Ferraro stood next. "The Empire of Abertone and Aosta have treaty commitments to each other above and beyond that of the ASDN. Currently we will be relaying information to Aosta on naval movements that could potentially threaten the sovereign waters of Troyes. Should the situation escalate we would have no choice but to consider sending our own support to that region. As for accusations of not complying with the spirit of ASDN let me remind us all of the preamble to this organisations charter, most notably the part that says we affirm "that all foreign bases are temporary and remain only with the expressed concurrence of the countries concerned and are not intended to be used directly or indirectly to subvert the national independence and freedom of States in the area or prejudice the orderly processes of their national development;" This section describes perfectly what has happened over the last few years in Troyes. The city is no more than a glorified military base for Seaforth. While Marseille are not members of this body we agreed to  strengthen the economic and social stability of the region and ensure the peaceful and progressive national development of it. Seaforth have stood in the way of that, tax money from Trojans fills the coffers of Seaforth while taking away a key economic port for Marseille. We must as a body give our support, not just words, to ensure that Seaforth leave Troyes. I suppose we could say its put your money were your mouth is time, Achkaerin and Rokkenjima hold ties with Seaforth, now is time to utilise them to get them to leave. In addition to the steps put forward by Miss Gianna we also propose that ASDN agree that we shall not provide the Seaforthian base in Troyes with any supplies and that we we shall boycott the use of Troyes as a port for all but humanitarian reasons.
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Diplomacy and Events / Re: Troyes Affair
« Last post by KrisNord on April 13, 2024, 11:25:39 PM »
Niamh can you get the Seaforthians on the phone please. King Finley instructed his PA. It took her about half an hour, Finley suspected that King Andrew would be rather snowed under. "Andrew its Finley. I'm just phoning to say that Ui Cenneslaig will be making a statement that we support Seaforth and that Real Marseille have no authority..........if you need anything you've my number." The conversation ended and Finley got busy with several other jobs. It wasn't really a matter he was too worried about but he was determined to show Celtic unity and that meant standing by your friends and that included Seaforth.




Following the fall of the Sorority of Materna it was clear that the people of the city of Troyes could not be supported by their homeland. The city relied on a huge humanitarian and economic support from Seaforth and it is no surprise that the inhabitants of the city owed a great deal of thanks to the Seaforthians who today make up 1/3 of the population of the city. In the aftermath the city then swelled to its current size of 3million. Since then the Seaforthians have ensured a strong economy, a stable justice system and a transparent democracy. We have now however seen an armed gang supported by a hoodwinked Aostan Empire convince the people change is needed. I firmly believe that this is nothing more than a rabble rousing minority manipulating public feeling to try and steal away from Seaforth territory they saved from disaster and have nurtured and cherished. King Andrew can be assured that Ui Cenneslaig will stand by our Celtic cousins in this situation and that we will pray common sense prevails and we see a peaceful solution.

King Finley.
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International Organisations / COSNAT Discussion on Troyes
« Last post by Snow on April 13, 2024, 10:23:49 PM »
As many of you will no doubt now be aware the city of Troyes in Albion has been disputed for several years. Currently the city is occupied by Seaforthian military members while its status as part of Seaforth is disputed by many who live in the city who see their destiny with Marseille, their ancestoral homeland. In the past few hours we have seen the group known as "Real Marseille" declare the city an independent sovereign nation that will seek union with Marseille. Currently we have two brewing international factions, first Aosta and Abertone have supported Real Marseille, while Seaforth and Achkaerin have ties to Seaforth.

The Kingdom of Weissenwald believe that this "city state" should not be permitted to become a ping pong ball between major nations. The city has a population of around 3 million people by our estimate and therefore the Kingdom of Weissenwald puts forward the following proposal.

1. We issue support for self determination by the city proven by an independent referendum.
2. We offer the services of COSNAT to manage this referendum.
3. We offer temporary special membership of this body to Troyes. Should the referendum make Troyes part of Marseille this membership would be withdrawn. Should they remain independent then membership shall continue if accepted.


We now open the floor to suggestions.
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Donna Gianna, the Aostan representative, stood to speak.

"From the very first gathering of the nations here it was clear that the Empire of Aosta was determined to see the city of Troyes return to the people of Marseille. The elections for mayor, local council and various other bodies all showed an overwhelming support for the Seaforthians to lose their grasp on the city. Following the fall of the Sorority of Materna the city of Troyes became a humanitarian hub and then was essentially annexed by Seaforth, Emperor Franco X was our monarch at the time, and we are saddened that we did nothing, nor did the world. That is until the first gathering of what was to become this body. The very first matter put on the agenda was Troyes, so to say we have acted against the spirit of this organisation is in our view misleading. Rokkenjima's own Imperial Liason, a Mr.McKenna, stated the existence of a Seaforthian Troyes is "a decision the Imperial Government does not recognize as holding any legal basis" Add to that in August of last year the Empress of Rokkenjima stated " we will see Troyes returned to Marseilles" and yet no one around this table has done anything to make that a reality. We have seen in statements that Rokkenjima are tied to Seaforth through defence commitments and yet the current situation in Troyes is the closest we have come to fulfilling the promise the Empress gave and she would now be willing to use force to halt this strive for independence."

"I now turn to the idea that we have somehow broken this treaty. Nowhere in the treaty does it have an expectation that we report all military acts. Do I expect a blow by blow account of naval patrols from Achkaerin around Gowu, or did we have formal notice of a Rokkenjiman ship visiting Clysperis. The article in question calls for the report of any "relevant" military action. The reason we don't get the patrol information or the port visit information is because they are not relevant. We have been asked by one sovreign nation to help them patrol their waters. This will have no impact on the operations of any other nations navy and therefore the article is not relevant. I believe this now explains why we have reached this point."

She shuffled her notes, "Now what we should be discussing is the way ahead. Rokkenjima, and I believe Achkaerin have close ties to Seaforth and these have yet to be utilised to let Troyes gain its independence. This pathway set out by Mr.Cantona is the best way for us to achieve the aim that this body first unified over. A referendum of the people of Troyes is, in my view at least, a pointless step. The various elections have been landslides by parties in favour of independence. The Reunion Party control 17 out of the 18 seats in the cities council, the Mayor Jean-Baptiste Bret won with a majority of over 90,000 votes. In a city of around 3million people  there have been strikes organised by the party that have shut down the city, 500,000 people took to the streets to march in protest. It is very clear what the people want and any referendum would be a mere formality but I suspect that formality will be needed. What we must do as a body is ensure that this referendum takes place soon and the 1st July has been put forward as a time frame. I therefore suggest we do two things. The first is Achkaerin and Rokkenjima speak with Seaforth about them accepting the timetable and standing by the result. The second is that we offer this organisation as a monitoring body for that vote. In the meantime we shall continue our patrols until asked to stand down."
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Diplomacy and Events / Re: Pyrettania-Shinkyō-Gowu Hotline
« Last post by Achkaerin on April 13, 2024, 09:22:44 PM »

To: Asuna Anselmo, Empress of Rokkenjima
Sadazane Konishi, Prime Minister of Fusan

At this point in time there is no hard evidence of this being anything other than what it appears to be, the people of Troyes having become fed up at the continuation of the Seaforthian occupation of their city, it isn't helpful in the grand scheme of things because it only takes one escalation, one attack against the Seaforthian base or the personnel stationed in the city and we're at the threshold where King Andrew could legitimately claim that an armed attack has occurred, which of course triggers the mutual defence agreements that Seaforth has with nations across Mundus. That is an escalation of this situation no one wants to see.

The Seaforthian justification for Troyes as a protectorate no longer stands, and I'm not convinced it ever did, it was founded out of supposed fears concerning the former Grand Duchess of Marseilles Alys Arsenault and came about following the appearance of Ms Arsenault in Troyes several years ago. However as Ms Arsenault was at the time wanted for crimes under the Uppsalla Convention (and could now also be charged with other crimes under the Historical Crimes Treaty) I question whether that fear ever really held water because surely she could and should have been arrested at that point and then we'd arguable be where we are now. The Achkaerinese position remains that Troyes is sovereign Marseilles territory and that the Seaforthian presence amounts to nothing more than an illegal occupation of that land, the Seaforthian protectorate has no legal standing because the Marseilles Government never ceded sovereignty to Seaforth, therefore by the same token the Republic of Troyes has no legal standing. If we start entertaining this idea then what stops a group of students in Rokkenjima from declaring 'the Free City of Phuckbridge'? The principle of sovereignty must be protected.

At this time the Achkaerinese military is being put on a heightened state of readiness just in case this does escalate and Seaforth does make the determination that would trigger treaty obligations, in that event I'd rather have the ability to act quickly than be slower than the Seaforthians. My cousin Sakura is enroute to Marseilles to talk with their Government, I am flying to Seaforth to talk with King Andrew and attempt to give diplomacy the chance to win out.

Signed



Empress of Achkaerin
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Diplomacy and Events / Re: Troyes Affair
« Last post by Achkaerin on April 13, 2024, 08:45:05 PM »
It was a peaceful night in the Marble Palace, Serenity was sat on the sofa, one arm around  her younger daughter Astrid, while her older daughter Lisa sat on Serenity's other side, they were watching the tv show the Octonauts - it was a favourite of the girls. Also on the sofa was Euphy curled up next to Serenity but behind Lisa.
"Is this the one with the honeybadger in it?" Nettie Taylor asked as she walked into the lounge.
"Yep." Serenity said "We're watching this then Euphy's going to help with them with their homework while I make snacks and then we're watching Moana followed by Brave."
"Movie marathon nice." Nettie said
"Why do I get the impression you're about to tell me I'm not going to be enjoying watching them?" Serenity asked
"Because this happened." Nettie said handing Serenity a summary document on what had happened in Troyes, Serenity glanced at it and looked at Euphy
"I think Val's doing homework help." Serenity said
"So much for our quiet night." Euphy said

Once the homework had been started Serenity, Euphy and Nettie all headed into the kitchen. "Ok let me just ask... what level of silliness is this?" Serenity asked as she switched the oven on "Is this how to lose support for your cause day? In what world does anyone think that the international community is just going to nod at this? Say yes to this and what stops the Gungnir just declaring any random village in Nya Aland as sovereign territory."
"That's not the main problem though." Nettie said
"Much as I admire the garbage fleet protest league worthiness of this affair yeah I know." Serenity said leaning against the wall and sighing "What happens when Andrew picks up the phone and calls me, calls Asuna, calls David etc."
"It gets messy." Nettie said
"You need to get in front of it." Euphy said
"I know." Serenity said with another sigh "Nettie talk to the foreign office get a statement out about this."
"Ok." Nettie said
"How'd you fancy a detour to Seaforth before we go to Rokkenjima for the Youth Diet?" Serenity said looking at Euphy
"I'm game." Euphy said
"Sakura should be finished in Clysperis by morning so let's get her down to Marseilles to talk to Sauzee and Deschamps." Serenity said "Meanwhile I go to Seaforth and  try to reason with Andrew before this gets out of hand."
"Do I need to talk to Adam about the military?" Nettie asked
"Yes, you know the drill." Serenity said
"I do." Nettie said, she walked away as Serenity looked at Euphy
"Sure you still want to hang around this madhouse?" Serenity said
"Totally." Euphy said before she gave Serenity a kiss "Now dinner to make, films to watch and we'll pack later."



Statement on Troyes

The Achkaerinese Government continues to recognise that the city of Troyes is the sovereign territory of the Republic of Marseilles, we do not believe it to be a Seaforthian protectorate because sovereignty over the city has at no point been ceded to Seaforth, this is the fundamental principle of sovereignty it can only be granted by the land owner. Therefore as there be no evidence that the government of Marseilles has granted sovereignty of Troyes to this 'Republic of Troyes' we do not  recognise it as a sovereign state and continue to assert the position that Troyes is part of the Republic of Marseilles. On that basis we do not recognise any suggestion that the waters and airspace of Troyes are not Marseilles water and airspace, nor will the Achkaerinese government recognise as legally enforceable any referendum held without the consent of the government of Marseilles.
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Kayumi Asami again rose to speak. "In the past few hours we've seen actions taken in regards to Troyes by local actors, as well as the Empires of Aosta and Abertone. The later actions have been taken without the consultation of this body which, some may argue, speaks against the spirit of Article 4.1 considering the defensive ties some members hold with the Kingdom of Seaforth. Furthermore, while the Protectorate of Troyes is illegitimate, the self-proclaimed Republic of Troyes is as well, with concerns being held over the conduct of "Real Marseilles". With no input, at the moment, from the legitimate government of Marseilles on either the self-proclaimed Republic and the actions undertaken in their name, and the Government of Marseilles has yet to green-light foreign naval vessels operating in their waters, we're at a most messy junction. At the moment these operations are seemingly illegal and, if one wished to argue it, against the spirit of the ADSN Charter, so someone," she said as she looked to the representatives from Aosta and Abertone before continuing, "had better begin explaining just how we got to this point."
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