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Pope Peter II goes to Djerb, the capital of Tamora
« on: October 04, 2018, 06:58:48 PM »
How the press presented the visit


The Tamoran central press covered the Papal visit to Attica with interest. The Ecclesiastical State was always seen in Tamora as a Christian theocracy and us such media treated the ES with fascination and with some measure of respect while at the same time saw the ES as a threat to Tamora especially considering the history with Attica when ES did all it could to stop the annexation. But unlike other foreign visits Tamora had so far, most of the attention was not directed at the ES, its economy, military or standard of living but on the Pope and the institution it represented for Christians in general and Catholics in particular.

TINS and its parent network focused on showing how the Pope was greeted by huge crowds in Attica, praising it as a sign of healthy religious expression and showed a lot of times how the Pope held the baby that was dressed as a pope. Tamorans liked public displays of religion and although they preferred more sober ones than the baby incident it was presented as a "Catholic" thing. At the same time the network took a mostly neutral tone towards the visit as the Pope was seen as a guest and as such tempered its criticism. Instead the station focused on presenting what the it considered common ground with Catholicism and showed Catholics from Tamora praying in their churches while dressed very conservative. In a farther attempt to show the common ground between the two religions, the Manist press presented various aspects that Catholicism considered or still considers halal: from usury to adultery and going to far as to show  various passages from the Scriptures that mentioned slavery with analysts painting the picture that Catholicism at its core shared the same values as Manism and that only recent developments in Catholicism have made them stray away from the path of their ancestors. 

Spoiler:  TINS network presenting Catholic women praying • show








The ultra conservatives and their news networks were less kind. They talked at large about the operation Encirclement, a very popular theory among the ultraconservatives though never confirmed or even commented on by the Tamoran government. The theory stated that the Pope aimed to invade Tamora and would first seek to encircle it. It suggested that the Pope tried to enter a treaty with the Royal Seleucid with that goal alone only to have been rejected by RS and break it. He then joined CNN to gain allies for his invasion. Once that was established, he coordinated with the Christians of Slava Lavosk to start the persecution of Tamorans in Slava Lavosk (the fact that the Pope never condemned the actions was considered as proof of his covert actions and support) and now he opened a bridge head in Attica by encouraging rebellious and separatist feelings there, going so far as even giving the Queen an armed escort.

According to the ultra conservatives, the Pope came to Djerb (the capital of Tamora) with the purpose to assess the faith of the people. It is for the reason that they encouraged the faithful to show up at temples and pray while the Pope visits Djerb so that we would see the strength of the faith in Tamora.


Djeb International Airport


The welcoming delegation for the Pope was headed by Alya, the Fist Wife of the Emperor and the Mother of the Nation, a symbolic religious title given by the Manist Church. It was debated in Tamora's diplomatic circles who to send to greet the Pope. Since the Ecclesiastical State was a very powerful country and Tamorans respected that they were inclined to send the Emperor himself. However, that was not appropriate considering the rather cold relations the two countries shared. Having the Supreme Ayatollah greeting the Pope was out of the question and so Alya was chosen since she represented in a way both the Manist Church and the Tamoran government yet at the same time did not lead either of them. Furthermore, as her symbolic title had given her a lot of prestige and power to influence the affairs of the country, her leading the welcoming delegation was without a doubt not meat as an insult to the Pope.
 
Alya, was dressed in a black abaya and a hijab, the traditional garment of Tamoran women. It had discrete decorations that made it stand out. Furthermore, she also wear gloves. It was seen as deeply inappropriate for Tamorans of the opposite sex to touch in public even for simple gestures as shaking hands. She wore the gloves to be sure that should the Pope get too friendly and seek to shake hands, their skin wouldn't touch.
The whole Tamoran press was there waiting to see how she would greet the Pope. As he was about three feet away. She bowed respectfully at a 45 degree angle and addressed the Pope:
" Welcome to the Empire of Tamora, Your Holiness."

After giving the pope the chance to reply she politely invited him to walk to the convoy awaiting for him.
The press transmitted live the greeting of the two leaders with many watching being displeased that Alya bowed too much to the Pope. The press then focused on how the two leaders walked towards the car, according to Tamoran customs, women were expected to walk behind men but in this case Alya represented Tamora as a whole. So Tamoran viewers were pleased to see them walking side by side though keeping a safe distance between them. As the Alya and the Pope were walking towards the car, Alya waved discretely at the cameras. 
Alya invited the Pope to enter one of the cars so they can start the journey to the Imperial Palace. She would take a separate car. The convoy escorting them was huge and had over one hundred limousines each accompanied by two motorcyclists. The host did their best to provide the Pope with a convoy fit for the leader of one of the most powerful countries in Mundus.   


Djerb, Imperial Enclave


Extensive preparations were made for receiving the Pope. The Imperial intelligence service was on high alert for any possible "religious incidents". Passions ran high and as far as the authorities were concerned they didn't want any security incidents to disrupt the event. The Count of Djerb had asked for extra manpower from all the dukes in the Imperial Enclave so the city was full with law enforcement agents. 
Not many foreign leaders visited Tamora but the few that did were generally received with a military parade. No parade was organized for the Pope, instead the entire boulevard was kept closed to cars while the official convoy would pass.

Just as the authorities did their preparations so did the regular Tamorans. On one hand the Christians from the federated kingdoms of Vojvodina and Attica wanted to see the Pope once more and had come to Djerb in droves. Many parish priests encouraged the faithful to go to Djerb for a "one in a lifetime opportunity" to see the Pope but also as a show of solidarity to not leave him "alone" in Djerb. Many listened to the call of their priests as the Tamoran central press reported that at least two million people from the two federated kingdoms came to Djerb for the visit.
On the other hand, the ultra conservatives themselves mobilized the people. Imams urged business owners to close their businesses for the visit as to give employees the possibly to go to temples and pray. Also, the Imams from the rural areas and the small cities around Djerb encouraged people to go to Djerb and show the "Pope the strength of the faith in Tamora". At least two million people from the Imperial enclave alone came to Djerb for that purpose. Adding to those from all the federated kingdoms that came to Djerb out of curiosity or more.
This made the city almost paralyzed from the large influx of people coming in. The whole route where the official convoy would pass on its way to the Imperial palace saw sidewalks full of people curious to see the Pope, the leader of the Christian world as the Tamoran press had described him.   

But by far the largest crowds was waiting in the Ancestors's Square, the main square of Djeb. Around a million people made the square packed full. People of ages, some clearly Christian by the flag and rosary they had were waiving at the pope, others, most likely Manists, were looking curiously at the Holy leader while others were praying. Helicopters were flying above the square ready to intervene should any incidents take place. It was in moments like these that it was clear that the huge convoy escorting the Pope and Alya was also meant to give a sense of security to the foreign guests. Although, most likely they wouldn't need to fear the crowd since people didn't seem angry or violent. Alya discreetly waved from her car, something extremely unusual for a Tamoran nobleman but increasingly more common for Alya. In just six month she has seen a meteoric rise in popularity. But unlike other Tamorans personalities, the people also liked her, not just respected her. Though the crowd was certainly more interested in the Pope, still a very large number of people waved at her and threw flowers at her car. Something Tamorans didn't feel appropriate doing for any other nobleman.   

Spoiler: Djerb greets the Pope • show


The crowd was huge in Ancestors' Square:



A long time tradition in Djerb, to paint the name of the Prophet on the Ancestors' Monument. Tamorans do it as an expression of respect for the Prophet and in this case to also remind the Pope whose laws Tamora's follows:



An of course the flag was present:



Outside the Ancestors' square, people prayed in the streets in huge numbers just as the Imams encouraged them to do:



And it wasn't just one street:





Imperial Palace


When the convoy reached the Imperial Palace, the Emperor was waiting to greet the guest. Soldiers from the Palace, dressed in uniform, opened the doors for the Pope and Alya. Abbas, greeted the Pope and invited him in the Palace.

As they entered the palace, they went through the hall of ancestors where the portraits of each Tamoran Emperor hanged on the wall. Over fifty portraits, all from the Safavid ruling dynasty. Just above the large doors that lead outside the hallway and into the main dining room, two large portraits reigned supreme, on the left a somewhat smaller portrait was Alya, "the mother of the nation" as she was called, and on the right, the larger portrait was that of the Prophet Mani, the central figure of the Manism religion and the founder of Tamora's system of governance.
It was the entire history of Tamora in one large hallway. Generations upon generation of Emperors and  their people that ruled and lived under the system devised by the Prophet Mani, about one thousand years before present day.

Once the Pope, Abbas and Alya were inside the dining room, Alya excused herself in order to allow the two HoS some privacy. Not that they were alone in the room. Two soldiers were standing in two corners of the room and another slave servant was in the room ready to provide the guest with any refreshment he might wish.
Abbas invited the Pope to take a seated and addressed him:

"Your Holiness, I trust the trip was uneventful. We usually opt for a military parade when such a prestigious head of state such as yourself visits the Empire. However, I believe Your Holiness has a power of a different kind and as such we opted for you to see the Tamoran people. And the Tamoran people themselves wanted to see you. That much is clear from the crowds you manage to draw.
I also noticed that Your Holiness enjoyed the hospitality of Tamora while in Attica.  You visited the ex detention center, the Lion memorial, met the "bishops" I never confirmed or agreed to. Did I forget anything? Ah, yes. You also managed to find the time to offer some guards to the Queen there. I am sure her security was lacking.

What is even more impressive is that you managed to do all that for a Families summit. I never knew that the definition of family could be so board or that Your Holiness' interest in our internal affairs and history could be so deep. You humble us with our attention. " Despite the irony in the last part of his speech, Abbas kept a neutral tone, keeping a formal atmosphere though perhaps not the friendliest possible.

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Re: Pope Peter II goes to Djerb, the capital of Tamora
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2018, 10:38:38 PM »
"Well…" the Pope began sensing the cold tone being emitted from the Emperor. "In terms of having interest in your nation's culture and history, it's for the sake of that culture but to provide another perspective. Other cultures provide different ways of looking at the world and our place in it. They show why what you or your culture think of  as "right" might not be. Other cultures also show how we all have a lot and I mean a lot in common.
 
Without learning about other cultures, you have no hope in understanding what the world is really like. For example, learning about a certain people and their history can help us to understand why we must conserve resources of our environment. Why we must work together and why we should be prepared for potential disasters. With Another, it helps us to understand why the power of government should be limited and why the press should be free.
 
The real reason why we should learn about other cultures is because they help us to improve our understanding. Such as the history of religious tolerance in Midaranye. Or the Etiquette in Némérie. All of these help us to understand that we aren't #1. Why we aren't the best. However they also teach us how we can be #1. How we can be the best. If we choose to ignore the lessons learned by others. We will be condemned to repeat them". the Pope said as he paused.

"I suppose you and I can agree that we can now cut to the chase and actually begin the real discussions." Peter said, wanting to not waste time as he preferred to be elsewhere, but knew there were a few issues that had to be solved. "First of all, the approval of Bishops or not...Frankly, I don't see why it would be a concerns of His Majesty to begin with, it's not as if the Ecclesiastical State has an ulterior motive to try to Control Tamoran politics, quite the contrary in fact. Our Catholic Bishops demand nothing at all than to serve their Church and God. I don't waste my time back home determining other people's religious hierarchy, especially those belonging to Manism; trying to demand something as approving clergy that doesn't belong to yours whilst it's totally the opposite for the other, is showing double standards your Majesty." the Pope said openly, whether it was according to diplomatic protocol or not, the truth was the most important thing to bring to the table.

"What is it that I could do in order for His Majesty to relax his concerns?"

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Re: Pope Peter II goes to Djerb, the capital of Tamora
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2018, 08:03:34 PM »
"It concerns me when foreign heads of state name the bishops in my Empire. This is Tamora, here religion matters. I do not take lightly the idea of having a foreign leader name high ranking religious leaders in my empire. I do not name the religions leaders of any religion, be they at home or abroad. "

"Your Holiness is the one insisting on naming the bishops in Tamora. Since you are a foreign leader I see no reason why I should accept that since I have not been consulted in any way. When you'll see me naming the Ayatollahs in the Ecclesiastical State then you can accuse me of double standards. "

"What Your Holiness can do in order for me to relax my concerns is to do what all the other Christian cults do: free your bishops and let the local church name them. That's how the Orthodox cult does it. You do that and I couldn't care less who is elected bishop."

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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2018, 11:04:47 PM »
The Young Pope realised that he could exploit a loophole regarding "letting the local church name them", considering he could through a contact or two name them without alerting the Tamoran Emperor, considering officially it was the local clergy who'd decide that. "Certainly Your Majesty, I don't see why it would be an awful idea at all, if that would ease your mind I guess I have no choice other than to agree to it; I'll see to it that the local clergy will name the Bishops themselves." TYP simply said with a neutral expression, feeling deep inside that he potentially solved the matter.

"As for Queen Arpine, I...well I think both of us know what's at stake here. May I ask why she's considered to be a threat, why the obsession of making sure she belongs to Manism? Why the refusal of granting her marriage to a foreigner? All that she wants is to rule her Kingdom in Peace and tranquility whilst serving your Majesty with utmost loyalty; Whether it was justified to have the rest of her family executed in such fashion...the Point is that she isn't like her parents or any other relative that might've conspired against you, why on Earth would she try to backstab you in the back when she's got more to lose than you to begin with?" The Pope asked. "I also ask once more, if there's anything I could do to resolve any issue that stems from the Queen?"

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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2018, 09:39:07 AM »
"Perfect, as soon as the change Your Holiness has proposed becomes official I will see to it that bishops of Attica will officially become instated as bishops. I have not been consulted on their appointment but they have been serving here for quite some time in some cases and I have no desire to pursue the matter further."

"How I deal with my kings is an internal matter of the Empire. But since you approached the subject, I will inform you that all kings need my consent to marry, just as they need to give their consent when a duke wants to marry and the dukes decide for the lower nobles and so forth. We do this in order to ensure no undue influence or alliances take place. We certainly do not allow foreign marriages unless the candidates come from a trustworthy background. Otherwise there are plenty of suitable candidates in Tamora to choose from.  "

"The "obsession" with converting to Manism is related to the fact that we strongly believe Manism is the only religion that stays truth to the beliefs and practices of our ancestors and is the only religion suited perfectly for Tamora. Our zeal in converting is fuel by our desire to do what's best for the great community that is Tamora. As a religious man yourself, Your Holiness should understand that. However, since you have taken such a keen interest in our culture you might have noticed that I also have a Muslim, an Anahitaist and a Yazdânist king. The Muslim monarchy from Altai has been part of Tamora for more than nine hundred centuries so while we wish for all to follow the word our Prophet it's not like we force then to do it.  What I am interested in preserving the system left in place by our Prophet and in that system slavery plays an important role just as monarchy does. When a noble advocates against slavery it is the duty of his higher noble to intervene and remove him. "

"Getting back to the Queen, I have been very accommodating towards her. Despite the fact that her family members have been executed for treason, I still allowed her to rule there. And that despite the fact she is a woman. Yet she still borders on sabotaging slavery in her kingdom. So while me and Your Holiness are aware of what is at stake here she doesn't seems to be aware. You don't act in that manner when your family has the track record her family has and when you are the last of your line."

" I do not fear her backstabbing me, if I had such fears, she wouldn't no longer be queen. So I guess if you want to help you could talk to her and make her understand "what is at stake here" because she doesn't seem to have understood so far."   

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2018, 09:52:23 AM »
"Fair enough, but then Christianity has also the right to exist, as you perfectly describe the situation for others such as the Muslims, Anahatists and Yazdanists; it's debatable whether Christianity and slavery are compatible with each other but do remember that merely centuries ago under intense political pressure, the Popes agreed to the practice of slavery with varying restrictions, depending on who was sitting on St. Peter's Throne that is; I'm sure these misunderstandings will cease to exist and your institutions will not be threatened." the Pope said, thinking that it would be alright to purchase and then free slaves if necessary, the Catholic Church was in such a position before and the issue really wasn't that pressuring.

"As for a potential marriage between Queen Arpine and a Prince of good standing with the Tamoran Imperial Family...what would you say if this Prince came from the Quintelian Royal Family; What are current Tamoran views of said nation and if the Prince turns out to be matching the qualifications required by Your Majesty, would you consider accepting it?"

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2018, 12:52:22 PM »
"It's not really a question if Christianity has a right to exist or not. The question is whether it should be allowed to be an official religion of one of the kingdoms of Tamora though having a monarch of that religion. I don't ask my kings to embrace slavery but to swear loyalty to me and to uphold our laws. If they want to keep their throne with all the wealth, prestige and privileges it brings then they also have to assume the responsibilities of the throne. Should they have moral qualms about something then they are free to abdicate, leave much of the wealth behind and become a regular freeman. I have seen Christians in other countries upheld laws that are against their religion, I see no reason why they couldn't do the same here. You need not worry about the Catholics of Attica, in the kingdom of Vojvodina the Orthodox Christian have lost their Orthodox monarch a long time ago yet there are still plenty of Orthodox Christians in Vojvodina today."

"The Quentalian Royal family?" Asked Abbas rather intrigued. "That is odd, I know the King there has only two sons, one will inherit the throne while the other has serious "issues" to say the least. I assume you are not talking about his eldest son, which could only mean you are talking about the problematic son. Am I wrong?"

"As far as Quintelia is concerned, I always believed it is a nation which much potential but for whatever reasons stays in the shadows. I have personally met King Lapu and while we do not have close relations I believe there is willingness on both sides to improve relations. I find Quintelia an agreeable choice but I need to know who is the potential "candidate" from the Royal family."   

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 08:28:52 PM »
"I do agree that this 'troublesome' son of Lapu might be at first glance quite the strange candidate, considering his past...activities. However compared to his brother and heir, Carlos wouldn't cause any issues at all on the political side of things considering the geopolitical balance of Tamora wouldn't be put in Jeopardy unlike when the Queen's spouse would own both land in his own territory and Attica. The Ecclesiastical State, as a great ally and friend, can sincerely vouch for King Lapu's dynasty which is one of the finest and most honorable in Mundus; Lapu himself saved the nation from the horrors of collapsing democracy and look where Quintelia is now, better and stronger than Before. This marriage to Carlos would also serve as the perfect PR, Emperor; A sinner of Epic proportions turned into the sweetest of Lambs and the Light due to the status of a Virgin Queen, as well as showing the rest of Mundus that religion does still have an important role to play unlike frivolities such as Atheism. Carlos is a good actor I Heard, I'm sure he would be up to collaborating with the finest within the Theatre business in Tamora." The Pope replied, trying to make the offer sound as good as possible.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 04:30:40 PM »
"So it is him!" said Abbas almost amused "I wasn't suggesting the eldest son was an acceptable candidate but that Carlos himself shouldn't be considered. With all due respect Your Holiness, the man should have either been enslaved or executed. I am not interested in his redemption and I doubt the "PR" would be that big of a win compared to the loss of prestige. I would have convicted felon as spouse to one of the monarchs of Tamora. I fail to see how that would bring anything but shame. Frankly I am surprised that queen Arpine accepted this.  Of all the Catholic nobles in the world, why would you want him as spouse to the Attican monarch? Surely you could have found a better candidate. " 

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 08:40:20 PM »
"With all due respect, Emperor, judging a character whom you haven't met or heard about that much other than his track record isn't the way to go about it, it's as if Saul of Tarsus, St Paul, wouldn't have been chosen by Jesus to become one of his foremost non-original apostles due to his former past which meant hunting down and killing Christians; I didn't think Manism lacked mercy and compassion but it seems to be the case...Also no Queen Arpine hasn't accepted any of this, the search for a potential consort is still underway and naturally, this is one of a few other candidates I've wished to discuss with you. Considering His Majesty considers himself wiser than I am, do propose he candidate of yur choosing before I'll continue".

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2018, 02:51:34 AM »
"Your Holiness, we don't follow Jesus, we follow the Prophet Mani. All our courts have written on the wall one of the most famous passages from the Book of Mani "Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent".  So our focus is on protecting the innocent, compensating the victims and punishing the guilty. We do not care for rehabilitating the guilty. As for proposing a candidate, that is not what I do as Emperor. I approve proposals but I see no reason why i should get involved in searching for a candidate since queen Arpine is not of my religion."

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2018, 09:38:21 AM »
"If this is all about the risk of losing prestige, then let us conduct the wedding by ourselves without your involvement to begin with; as you just said, Queen Arpine and Prince Carlos aren't Catholic and don't belong to Manism, surely His Majesty would realize that it would only affect the Celestian Catholic Church as whole? It's her issue as well as mine if this wedding is approved".

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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 07:59:03 PM »
"I don't enter places of worship that are not of my faith, so my participation wouldn't have happened anyways. If your Holiness vouches for Carlos in private then I am sure Your Holiness wouldn't mind to vouch for him in public for all to see by performing the wedding yourself. If you do that, you have my consent for Queen Arpine to marry Carlos. There is also the issue of place, I have to insist the wedding takes place in Tamora or the Ecclesiastical State because that is the"seat" if I may say to of her religion and that is also acceptable.  So what does Your Holiness say, are those terms agreeable?"

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2018, 02:26:51 PM »
"Am glad to hear that this arrangement works for you as well Your Majesty, trust me when I say that you don't need to worry about this potential marriage; it will only affect us Catholics and nothing more, nothing less." Peter said with a smile. "As for the location, it hasn't been decided yet but certainly either location should be perfect...ok moving on from here, there's Another topic that ought to be discussed...slavery. You see we both know how Tamora is built upon slavery, which is considered to be an ancient ill-moral relic of the past by many, including myself; no offence Emperor but it's also my duty to condemn it as an important religious leader lest I lose the confidence of my flock; how are you going to cope with the increased sanctions put on the country by foreign entities? You got RS to back you up economically speaking, but would that be enough?" the Pope asked curiously.

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2018, 06:16:02 PM »
"Tamora isn't built on slavery, it's built on the teachings of the Prophet Mani. He devised this system of government more than a thousand years ago and we built upon it. Removing slavery is an impossibility for us since it will mean disagreeing with what the Prophet thought us. And I believe Your Holiness has noticed by now that we do not change as times go, we stay true to our beliefs regardless of what people think of us.

This system that we have now has saved Tamora and brought it where it is today, without  we wouldn't be who we are, we would have most likely been conquered by the Kingdom of Altai and disappear from history a long time ago. So it doesn't matter how many countries sanction us, we will not move an inch since what they ask of us it to give up our religion and our identity since slavery is a part of that. Faced with such a choice, we will gladly take whatever sanctions others put on us. The Royal Seleucid are our friends but friends can only do so much. Tamora is ready to stand alone if it has to against all foreign powers. They can seal all our borders and can blockade us by sea and we would still not give up who we are and be won't disavow our ancestors who practiced the same faith as us.

As far as the condemnation of slavery goes, I know how Catholics think, the local bishops, we can now call them that since we agreed on a compromise,  preach from time to time against it from their pulpits. We do not ask people to embrace slavery even if they live in Tamora but we do ask them to accept that it is legal."