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Title: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 12, 2018, 07:28:43 PM

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A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS[1]

Having witnessed the government of Lodja seek to create a multi-national co-operative group we were impressed with their format, however not being a monarchy ourselves means that we are unable to join. Therefore we propose a similar organisation for those nations who have not got monarchs.

I therefore wish to invite the Republics of Mundus to Empire Bay D.C in Algonquin[2] island to discuss and hopefully create our own organisation. Please find the attached, proposed treaty at the end of this invitation as to better prepare one's self prior to attending this convention.

It is our sincere hope you will meet with us to discuss and ratify this organisation.

Take Care and God Bless, Sincerely

President Marc-Antoine Lavaud of the Bretonnian Republic

OOC NOTE: You may RP your arrival, no need to formally reply to the invitation

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Recognising the independence of Republics.

Understanding the need for international co-operation amongst citizens is vital for international harmony

Committed to celebrating the uniqueness of nations.

Hopeful that Republics can co-operate in a range of areas

The nations signing this document hereby agree to the following conditions.

1. That Republics will act towards each other with friendship and kindness. That any disputes shall be settled by peaceful means whenever possible using various international organisations to bring about mutually acceptable solutions.

2. That Republics will host Ambassadors of other member nations within their capital. These Ambassadors are to present themselves to the Head of State/Government within 24 hours of being summoned in writing.

3. That every two years a Festival of Nations shall take place[3]. This shall be a Cultural Festival to be hosted in a member nation choosen by a panel made up of one representative per nation. Each representative may nominate one city as host and may cast one vote, this however may not be for their nation. A nation may not host two consecutive Festivals.

4. That every two years[4], to be staggered with the Festival of Republics, a Tournament of Nations shall take place. This shall be a sporting event similar to the Mundus Games but on a smaller scale with each member nation choosing two Sports. The host shall be choosen by a panel made up of one representative per nation. Each representative may nominate one city as host and may cast one vote, this however may not be for their nation. A nation may not host two consecutive Tournaments.

5. The Network of Republics shall share information on criminal and terrorist activities that may effect other nations.

6. Members of the Network of Republics agree that they shall ensure any Tariffs in existence are no higher for members than for the lowest tariffed non-republic nation which does not hold a Trade Agreement.[5]

7. Member nations agree that should a natural disaster or act of God befall a fellow member they shall take whatever action is within their power to offer support.

8. Member nations agree to an annual Council of Ministers. This shall take place in a rotation basis determined on the order by which this Treaty is signed. This Council shall be attended by either the Head of Government or their appointed person and shall discuss matters of international importance as well as co-operation between members.

9. This Treaty shall be open to any nation that has the governmental form of a republic, which shall be defined as one with an elected non hereditary leader, with a time limited term of office whom is not coronated so far as they ratify this Treaty. A member may be blocked from joining should a petition of more than 70% of members be presented within 48 hours of the disputed nation signing this Treaty.

10. A nation may leave this Treaty at any time by giving 30 days written notice.

11. This Treaty shall come into force from the ____________________________

Signed________________At Empire Bay D.C, Empire Bay, Bretonnian Republic
3. Or annually for RP purpose
4. Or annually for RP purpose
5. May need reworking, but essentially Bretonnia would, for example, not be able to charge Heyra a 10% Tariff on Steel, if they charged ES (monarchy) 7% and ES had the lowest steel Tariff of any non-agreement nation. HELP!!!!

1.	Revived thread from old forum by Ben2016
2.	rl Manhattan

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: RobertAgira on April 18, 2018, 10:24:09 AM

To:- President Lauvard

The Christian Republic of Mountjoy would be interested in potentially establishing this organisation and as such I will be attending the convention as requested.

Knight Commander Hugo Lascelles.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 19, 2018, 11:00:33 AM

President Marc-Antoine Lavaud, Bretonnia's supreme leader stood nervously in one of the conference rooms of what was possibly to become the Headquarters of the Network of Republics (http://famouswonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/United-Nations.jpg), overlooking the riverside area. It had seen many great names in the nations pas stay there, it's balls had been legendary and more than one major business deal had been done there. However it was decided that it would have a permanent role, this building. Lavaud paced back and forth, he knew many off by heart now having just concluded his sixth or seventh lap.

"Marc" VP Gabriel Pomeroy said as he approached, "we've unfortunately only one invitation returned, however it isn't uncommon for events like this to attract one or two late comers." he handed a list of names and nations over to Marc.

"Well I look forward to meet the Knight Commander, seems to be a great fellow" he said as he began his pacing again, "When will he arrive?"

"I believe he's beginning to make his way from the airport" Gabriel responded

"Superb, Algonquin hasn't seen this much security since ages ago, nothing better go wrong considering the big shots we'r receiving...even if bloody commies would dare even attend a Capitalist Haven" The President said in a assured and determined manner.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: RobertAgira on April 19, 2018, 02:51:06 PM

Hugo had landed in Bretonnia just after sunrise, he'd brought with him his Foreign Advisor, Commander Knight Giles Farrell a man of little height but almost as wide as he was tall. The two men had both worn matching blazers, their Orders seal on the pocket and around Hugo's neck was a Gorget denoting his rank as Knight Commander, the leader of the citizens of Mountjoy. The nation had tried to stay clear of many things in world affairs but they now needed to start spreading their Order wider and Hugo saw this as a golden opportunity.

As he arrived at the conference room he had to say he was a little disappointed. He grew up in a land where old beautiful buildings dominated the nation and here was a large glass and metal monstrocity, something that would never be permitted in Mountjoy. To many the buildings of home may seem antiquated but they were the connection to the past and the heritage of Mountjoy. This just seemed some reflective beast of a building and it lacked, in Hugo's opinion character. He did however greet his hosts warmly. "Good Morning" Hugo said cheerfully as they were introduced. "I had been hopeful of having to force my way through a crowd to meet you, but they say from small acorns giant oaks do grow."

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 19, 2018, 03:49:54 PM

"Welcome to the Bretonnian Republic and likewise getting to finally meet you, after hearing so much on international correspondences. Well as they say, sometimes a fire built on a hill will bring interested people to your campfire" President Lavaud greeted, his VP and First Gentleman/Husband Pomeroy doing the same. "Unless I'm mistaken this might be your first time visiting Bretonnia? If I had to take a guess, this type of architecture perhaps doesn't feel so 'cultured' in a sense, however judging Empire Bay solely on a glass building is a mistake many first-timers make; after our gathering I would recommend checking out Empire Bay's first and oldest borough, Alderney (https://lonelyplanetimages.imgix.net/mastheads/stock-photo-beautiful-amsterdam-76796579.jpg?sharp=10&vib=20&w=1200), filled with canals, medieval side-buildings, over-priced cheese shops, weed-smelling coffee shops with stoned youngsters and the most exquisite fine dames...or gentlemen in the reddest of all red light districts in Mundus...which I'm sure those two latter aren't particular interest of your peoples. In any case, please take a seat and we can begin. Any potential late comers might drop in, bad taste in all honesty but the fact only another republic dared show up...What do I know?" President Lavaud remarked, a bit disappointed that there was a lack of uniformity and passion amongst the few republics in Mundus.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 03:51:43 PM

The Miteravian Presidential Jet flew over the Bretonnian Republic, air traffic control had just told the pilot he was clear to land. President Seiler sat in the back of the plane, he once again noted his tardiness and cursed himself for not planning ahead enough; it wasn't his fault that refuelling the jet took so long, he reasoned with himself.
One of Seiler's aides, Veronika, walked through from the rear cabin.
'Uh...sir,' the aide began.
'What is it, Veronika.' He mused since he was already in a poor mood he hoped this wasn't any bad news.
'That communique you sent to Bretonnia regarding the NOR...' she continued.
'Yes.'
'Well...uh...it was never delivered, the Foreign Office never sent it off.'
'WHAT!' Seiler shot from his seat. 'Ugh the Foreign Office, for god's sake...'
'So...um...I don't think they know we're coming, sir...'
Seiler walked into the rear cabin of the plane.
'Maks,' he pointed at another aide, 'find the contact info for someone in the Bretonnian government and inform them of our impending arrival, get them to send a cab or something, we're already late and now we have no arrangements made.'
Maks did as was instructed so by the time the Miteravian's plane had touched Bretonnian soil they had a hotel, their private security and transport organised. They unloaded from the plane and hightailed it towards the conference.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 03:58:14 PM

"Oh my Gawd, I can't..can't believe this, you see Gabe babe...Hugo? The spirit of republicanism's truly alive, praise mother fortuna!" President Lavaud exclaimed, quickly getting himself together as he could sometimes get carried away by his emotions sometimes. "Where are my manners, Welcome President Seiler to the Most Serene Republic in Alba Karinya and Cotf Aranye, being of course Bretonnia. Please take a seat, as more snacks and refreshments are being brought up as we speak." Marc said while Pomeroy was alerting the kitchen staff on the phone to prepare more goodies. "I trust that his excellency has read through the entire proposed treaty...?" Lavaud asked, still wondering whether more would show up considering the security was prepared in the case of such eventualities.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 04:11:39 PM

President Seiler took his seat as instructed, 'It is a pleasure to meet your acquaintance, President Lavaud,' greeted Seiler, 'your great nation is a beautiful sight from above, I must say. Thank you for making this opportunity open to Miteravia, I have to confess I am very excited since Parliament read the treaty I have been granted executive power during the trip for the first time.'

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 04:18:27 PM

"Well thank you for your kind words, Bretonnia along with the Shangri-la peninsula has always been a state of progression and tolerance ever since time immemorial, I could say so the same regarding Miteravia, which Gabe and I can't wait to visit one day! Thank you for heeding to this invitation, it's about time the Great Republics of Mundus no matter ideology and Creed get together and be in the international spotlight for once and not just our Monarchist brother nations." Lavaud said, holding Pomeroy's hand as everyone who attended so far were sitting.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 04:33:12 PM

Seiler craned forward looked down the way towards Knight Commander Lascelles, 'Good to see you, Knight Commander, I don't think I have had the pleasure of meeting you previously, I trust your journey was comfortable.' He sat back in his chair and turned towards the Bretonnians,
'Mr Lavaud and Mr Pomeroy, may I ask how things are for the Bretonnian republic, I do try to keep up with foreign affairs in the news but I've been terribly busy lately.'

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 04:39:14 PM

"Well the President and I are continuing to maintain Bretonnia's unique standing in Mundus, that's what's pretty much clear although it's important to stress the necessity of innovation and forward-thinking for the upcoming future carrying the descendants. The Stocks are currently fairing quite poorly unfortunately, due to the ongoing plague business affecting trade abilities which has been successfully been contained for now although the first few days were indeed quite hectic and frightening, well at least for the average citizen but with Marc's ability when it comes to charisma the population's much stronger now in the psyche." Pomeroy deeply explained the situation, knowing like everyone else that the inevitable would happen to Bretonnia due to the open stance towards immigration and the densly-packed cities for easier spread, but eventually these events would simmer down sooner or later, life as they knew it would return hopefully. "Other than that...Mmm, well I suppose I could ask the same thing about your nations, gentlemen..." Pomeroy asked.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 05:39:21 PM

'Ah Mister Pomeroy, I would definitely say Miteravia is currently on the proverbial up; economic growth and stability seem to be the flavour of the day, although a little separatism sentiments has grown among a small minority of one state's populace but that's nothing too serious. Currently our large project is improving our diplomatic relations such as this and improving internal administrative efficiency. Regarding this plague epidemic if you wish Miteravia has many doctors and specialists, I am sure we could spare a few if it was to help reduce the likelihood of it spreading to more people and speed up the process of ridding the Bretonnian republic of it.' Seiler said.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: DeaEstMachina on April 24, 2018, 06:08:39 PM

To:
Marc-Antoine Lavaud, President of the Bretonnian Republic

Regarding the invitation to discuss the creation of a "Network of Republics"

Honored President,

the Socialist People's Republic of Atheroje has always stood firmly in the defense of democratic principles, peace and international cooperation.
We would gladly attend meetings to discuss and possibly found an organisation like that. A delegation is being prepared at the time this message is being sent, and we look forward to a constructive conference.

Signed:
Martina Nováková, People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Muneski on April 24, 2018, 06:50:43 PM

As president Bob boards the His Presidential Boeing 787 Dreamliner for yet another trip.
But he was exited for this one as it was his first time Alba Karinya.
They take off and fly through the sky at 640 mph to reach Alba Karinya in no time.
"Sure I have met the Pope before but last time I did not make the best entrance, but hopefully the people of Bretonnia have not heard of it" He said worried.
"Hopefully they are as inviting as the people of ES" He stated.
"I am delighted to be part of this new treaty as a nation we are quite slow" He told his assistant.
"So I am happy to be one of the first to something" he stated
They were cleared to land.
The president belted up for an exiting trip.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 06:59:46 PM

"Welcome President Cruchett to Bretonnia, I hope your travelling went well and not too much hassle from Albion. Please take a seat and wait for the additional goodies from the Kitchen, I'm sure everyone here will have a jolly good time." Lavaud said.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: RobertAgira on April 24, 2018, 07:47:59 PM

The gathering had certainly grown in size and Knight Commander Hugo Lascelles made a point of introducing himself to each new arrival with a polite but firm handshake, the kind that a man who had spent the majority of his life in Army turning spanners as an Engineer. He took a seat as conversations began and listened quietly to the others around him. When someone had asked about their home nations he leaned forward in his chair. "I'm happy saying life in Mountjoy is quiet, the way we like it. Although now the summer months are coming things will be gearing up for the summer tourist season, our lovely little towns draw quiet a crowd, those looking to enjoy a quiet break or we get quiet a few pilgrims. We even have some people trekking their way from the Citadel to the Holy Land the old fashioned way. " Hugo was rather envious of them, it was something he imagined as being rather exciting and had in his youth considered taking the journey himself on a motorbike but then he'd entered the service and that had seen the next two years of his life dedicated to the military.

When talk of the Plague came up he again added his own thoughts, "I hope Bretonnia has had a similar experience to us, we quarenteened Canaan at the first outbreak. The port city is usually full of boats docking and we think it came that way. Thankfully it didn't really make it out of the city and now the things burning itself out. If it helps we have our aid unit the Raphellites that have been waiting for calls for help. I'm sure if you need them we can sort that out?" Hugo offered them his nations specialist emergency response team, an army without weapons, made up mainly of those men and women in Mountjoy that took the Commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill" to the letter and as such selected medical service over military service.

Helping himself to a biscuit and cup of tea he looked around the room, many nations Mountjoy had not yet established relations with where here and that excited Hugo who reached into his sporon and removed a pop packet of pills. He flicked two out and swallowed them with a glug of tea before returning his attention to the room. "I'm rather looking forward to getting stuck into these negotiations" he said with a relish.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 08:07:00 PM

Lavaud and Pomeroy listened with much admiration as each and everyone were talking about their respective situations. "I would like to thank Eryk and Hugo here for offering aid in the gight against this Black Death, however for now we're able to keep it under control with our own dedicated professional HAZMAT teams, doctors and similar specialists. I hope these offers won't expire though as long as the disease's alive..."- Lavaud was interrupted by the kitchen staff coming in with the promised snacks, including the famous diverse Empire Bay Style Pizzas (1 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/NYPizzaPie.jpg) and 2 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Chicago-style-pizza-01.jpg/1280px-Chicago-style-pizza-01.jpg)) and the Empire Bay Style Hot Dogs (1 (https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/images/2014/02/20140128-hot-dogs-4505-meats-ryan-farr-63.jpg) and 2 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Chicago-style_hot_dog_2.jpg)), alongside drinks of various sorts, alcohol and non-alcohol; not to say the least the desserts like Empire Bay Style Cheesecake and Donuts. "Yeah woohoo! *Whistle*, this is what I'm talking about boys!" Pomeroy exclaimed, trying to also lighten the moods further, much to his husband's appreciation.

"I'm sure everyone's looking forward indeed, this is what the Lavaud cabinet thought so with one of the main motives being to strenghten the Republican relations, a key for this organisation to succeed is the respect for the diverse ideologies and creeds found within the common Republican framework based on democratic principles, peace and international cooperation" Pomeroy said as he helped distribute the plates, cups, cutlery and napkins. "I hope the city-style cuisine's to everyone's satisfaction, we can guarantee you that these are the finest quality made pizzas and hot dogs you can ever get your hands on in Empire Bay." Lavaud remarked showing the different options that were available to them.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 08:14:43 PM

'The pizza is exquisite yes, quite different to any other pizza and better might I add.' Seiler smiled mischievously. 'Here, take this as a personal gift and thank you to the pair of you for playing host.' Seiler offered a bottle of the finest quadruple distilled Port Miloscar vodka to the President and his Husband. 'THIS will hopefully challenge your preconceptions of what alcohol is.'

He turned to Hugo, 'Are you a drinker, Knight Commander, if you would like a bottle I'm sure I could convince the fine gentlemen at the distillery to send one to you. I wouldn't wish to be rude and not offer you a gift either.' He looked round the table. 'Anyone else?'

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: DeaEstMachina on April 24, 2018, 08:26:29 PM

As the conference continued to gain momentum in terms of attendance, a strange sight revealed itself in the skies above the riverside: with a noise that reminded of a scrap metal compactor, a dilapidated and disarmed Tu-14 stuttered through the air. Though it seemed like it could crash at any moment, the plane displayed astonishing endurance and somehow managed to land safely at last.
Its doors opened, and a small group of serious-looking people clad in dark greatcoats took their first steps on the island. The delegation of Atheroje, led by the People's Commissar (Minister) for Foreign Affairs Martina Nováková, had arrived to enter talks with other democratic nations now that the country finally left its long isolation. That rather sensational arrival, however, was somewhat damped by what followed, for the delegates just continued to stand around at the airfield, both confused as to which way to take to the gathering and seemingly unwilling or nervous to ask for directions.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Libby on April 24, 2018, 08:46:16 PM

The man stroked his beard before turning to his companion. "So Kseniya am I presentable?" Vadik Paternak, the Vice President of Kaitaine said rather calmly. They suspected their prescence here would not be appreciated, having assumed the mantle of trying to unite the Socialist of the world following the collapse of their former puppet masters, the USR, some five years ago their Soviet Republic had put rather a few noses out of joint, but now their glorious leader President McPherson had determined it was time to see what everyone was up to. He'd dispatched his young protegee Vadik Pasternak, the fiercly loyal and tenacious former army officer that was likely to succed McPherson one day. With him was Kseniya McLain, a fine KGB agent who among her duties was an able student of international law as well as being an excellent security agent. She was doubling as both Vadik's aide and his bodyguard, her deep pale blue eyes like those of a shark, on the surface displaying little life but ever watchful of things around her.

"You will do fine sir" she said almost without moving her lips. "We shall be late" she said looking at her watch and sounding only a touch disappointed.

"Relax Kseniya, we shall arrive when we arrive." He sat watching the Bretonian decadence out the car window before they arrived at the venue. He walked in followed by Kseniya, casually picked up a slice of pizza without saying a word, took a bite and then made his arrival known. "Hello everybody" he said handing Ksenyia the crust of the pizza. "Vadik" he shook hands with Hugo before moving on not even introducing his title, no doubt those gathered had seen the media announcements of his appointment as Vice-President and the usual character assassinations that would accompany the appointment of any Communist leader. "Vadik" he said again as he shook hands with President Cruchett before continuing his greetings with everyone in the room. "I must say quiet the soiree you throw here." He perched on a table edge. "I was rather thinking at one point our invitation would get lost in the mail, but nice to see the ultra efficent Soviet Postal Service hasn't let us down. How is everyone?" he asked noting Kseniya had taken a position towards a corner her eyes scanning back and forth.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 09:07:44 PM

Seiler tapped his class with a fork, causing a harmonious ring drawing the attention of most in attendance.
'So ladies and gentlemen, may I ask an open question?' Seiler began 'What is to be our shared goal in this endeavour, other than the obvious and vague mutual betterment. We have representation of a wide range from all across the political spectrum, this means we may find a central goal hard to come by.'
He realised his question was quite open ended and may be daunting for even the most skilled diplomat to answer without leaving a bitter taste in some attendee's mouths.
'...uh...I'll start,' The Miteravian President began to explain. 'Miteravia wishes to achieve greater diplomatic ties with multiple nations joined in republican tradition, this could come in the form of more formal agreements such as economic treaties, customs treaties or anything in that vein. It could also take the form of more informal agreements and just generally an improvement of relations.'

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 09:10:33 PM

One of the Presidential aides entered the conference room and whispered something important into Lavaud's ear, wasn't exactly the most thrilling good news out there directly but it had to be catered for this to work, Pomeroy noticing Lavaud's temporary, sudden change of expression as the aide left the room once more. Lavaud leaned closer to Pomeroy: "It seems the Atherojean and Kaitaine commies have finally landed on Bretonnian soil, we'll see if the day's pretty enough by the end of it...", with hubby assuring him that everything would be fine and simply relax. "At least we got enough dogs and pizzas, did I forget to mention the booze hehe?".

Sooner or later the commies entered the room, releasing a moment of complete silence and staring, things just got dead shit serious in other words. "Welcome...Comissar Novakova and Vice President Paternak to the Bretonnian Republic and this Republican convention, we're all 'glad and thrilled' fine-standing nations such as yourselves managed to summon the gut to come here, please take a seat and...- Ah I see you're enjoying the Pizza hehe...*gulp*." Lavaud said as a few Secret Service Agents entered the room, standing in the corners, hoping not many would take notice; luckily the attention craved from their Miteravian counterpart was the solution that was needed. Pomeroy and Lavaud being the hosts decided to let the others speak their minds clearly.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Libby on April 24, 2018, 09:15:23 PM

Vadik circled the room as though looking for a seat, shook the hands of several of the Secret Service before plonking himself in the comfiest looking empty seat. "What do we want to gain?....What do we want to gain?" Vadik mused rubbing his beard, "Well having looked at the proposed charter I must say I'm excited, cultural festivals, sports events, all wonderful things. Each of you getting a lovely new embassy in Arrakeen, that'll be exciting" he nodded, "A chance for you all to basic in our wonderful city on the cliff, well its kind of strecthed well beyond the cliff now but you'll see when you get there." He chuckled to himself. "The economic stuff could be tricky, after all unlike many of you it is our people who own our industry but I am sure something can be found. I already however have my eyes set on a few amendments so I hope nobody minds me taking out the tippex once we get started."

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: DeaEstMachina on April 24, 2018, 09:38:19 PM

The rest of the Atherojan delegation dispersed into the corners of the room, with obvious suspicion towards the gathered politicians as well as the strange foods, but Commissar Nováková took a seat near the representative of Mountjoy. After drinking from a water bottle she pulled out of some hidden compartment in her coat, a polite, if not friendly smile appeared on her face. "Esteemed Knight Commander", she said while leaning towards Lascelles, "I want to use this opportunity to applaud the humanitarian efforts of your nation. We may not have the best relationship with religious groups, but we give credit where credit is due. We have even published an article on that issue in our central organ. After all", Nováková added, "how is charity something other than revolution? It gives food to the hungry, hope to the thirsty, and the world to the poor."

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: Miteravia on April 24, 2018, 09:47:51 PM

The Miteravian President noticed the almost shifty actions of the Commissar and when he reached in his pocket, Seiler's hand shot to his waist out of habit to clutch at a sidearm that hadn't been there for months. When it turned out to be a bottle of water he visibly sighed and turned towards Vadik,
'We in Miteravia are very appreciative of your economic system as ours works to a greater or lesser extent similarly as all major business are owned by the state and the state very much works for the people as enshrined by law, so in a way the companies work for the people...' Seiler explained. 'But yes the cultural and sporting events sound like great fun if you ask me.'

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: The Young Pope on April 24, 2018, 11:08:35 PM

Some of the SS agents like the Miteravian President also almost went for their guns before realising it was just a water bottle, clearly it was a bit tense still. "Hugo, as much as I commend the honorable actions committed by the Knights/Raphaelites I do wonder about their presence in Bretonnia, unless my history's mistaken their presence in Bretonnia has been of a large character, seeking refuge in the past from pursecuting monarchs and spreading the Christian faith in this capitalist-minded society, it begs me to think if it isn't the time to set up a modern day HQ for them in both Empire Bay and Shencheng or at least one of the great cities?" Pomeroy asked.

"It always boils down to the economics as much as I anticipated, surely we'll solve these disputes in no time, thank you for your valuable input ladies and gentlemen. The cultural and sporting events are designed indeed to make a solid block of trust and mutual countability for each other." Lavaud commented.

Title: Re: A PROPOSAL OF THE NETWORK OF REPUBLICS
Post by: guest163 on April 25, 2018, 02:05:46 AM

Premier Chief Elyot Adrihel reads the invitation once again while on the car to the conference, this will be Iypra's first leap on diplomacy for over 331 years due to the nation's long-standing isolationism, Elyot felt a bit anxious but gathered his strength to suppress it. He then took a glimpse of an image of the goddess Ayruta, the goddess of peace and love, he stared at it for a minute and cited the final line of the Devotion to Ayruta, "Guide me with love and care, oh wise Ayruta.". He held his cane as the driver told him that they are approaching and he then looked out of the car window and was a bit disappointed on how tall buildings of metal and glass dominate the city, he brushed this off and focused on the conference. The car then arrived at the building and he got off in an orderly fashion and his security entourage followed suit, he walked confidently to the conference with his cane. He adjusted his tie and the security entourage dispersed outside the room at the last minute, He entered the conference room and greeted the hosts with confidence and glee. "A wonderful afternoon President Lavaud, I have been looking forward to meeting you."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: CGJ on April 25, 2018, 04:47:41 AM

Mod note: I've dropped the title from all caps to something a little less jarring :P

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 25, 2018, 09:45:40 AM

"Likewise Premier Adrihel, we can't express in words how delighted we are about your presence." Lavaud said greeting him shaking hands in the process with VP & First Gentleman Pomeroy doing the same, after all every available republic was needed. "You're not late at all for our little gathering, there's enough dogs, pizza and dare I mention booze for days to last if discussions last more than a day hehe. In any case we're currently discussing our visions and goals with this proposed treaty and see if there are any ideas and concerns you'd wish to talk about." Lavaud said.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on April 25, 2018, 11:03:14 AM

Vadik was not one for this general chit chat and eating these "Hot Dogs", tasted more like mashed of dogs head or something to him anyway, if you wanted a sausage make it out of proper meat not the rancid left overs, he was keen to get down to business and determine whether this Network was of any use to Kaitaine. "If we're talking about concerns I'd like to raise a few" He produced a notebook from his inside pocket and flicked it open.

"First there is Article 5[1]. I believe we should draw up a list of terrorist organisations recognised by this Network before we create the organisation. I note with interest for example that we are plagued daily with the Truthsayer and Bene Gesserit terrorist threat, sadly our ever watchful fight against them slipped up and the poor Morelanders had to experience it, and now a Rokkenjiman is dead because of them. Yet I note with interest that our friend her from Mountjoy has just recognised the Bene Gesserit's as a protected faith. This creates a problem, so perhaps we should change the wording to "share information on criminal and acts considered terrorist by any member nation." This would close the loop hole and help protect each of us." Vadik looked around to gauge the response.

"Then there is Article 7[2], there can be no act of God if there is no God. This definition is too vague, natural disaster or national emergency should be sufficient."

"Article 9 should be removed completely, if we are to truly represent Republics then we should not block membership for any nation fitting our criteria. We must not become an echo chamber where people hear only the points they support. We must allow dissenting voices and not put barriers to keep them out."

1.	5. The Network of Republics shall share information on criminal and terrorist activities that may effect other nations.
2.	7. Member nations agree that should a natural disaster or act of God befall a fellow member they shall take whatever action is within their power to offer support.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 25, 2018, 12:06:06 PM

The Bretonnian presidential couple were taking down notes as well, with Lavaud offering comments. "We Bretonnians agree with the re-wording of articles 5 and 7, however as for article 9 to be removed completely, well partially; The 70% majority able to block a petition perhaps isn't needed but the first part of the article could be considered to be essential, after all it would enable nations such as the Ecclesiastical State and Lodja to join depending on the interpretation of the word 'Republic', since the elective heads of states undergo coronation ceremonies as well as they hold their offices til' their last breath. I've highlighted the edited articles:

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Recognising the independence of Republics.

Understanding the need for international co-operation amongst citizens is vital for international harmony

Committed to celebrating the uniqueness of nations.

Hopeful that Republics can co-operate in a range of areas

The nations signing this document hereby agree to the following conditions.

1. That Republics will act towards each other with friendship and kindness. That any disputes shall be settled by peaceful means whenever possible using various international organisations to bring about mutually acceptable solutions.

2. That Republics will host Ambassadors of other member nations within their capital. These Ambassadors are to present themselves to the Head of State/Government within 24 hours of being summoned in writing.

3. That every two years a Festival of Nations shall take place[3]. This shall be a Cultural Festival to be hosted in a member nation choosen by a panel made up of one representative per nation. Each representative may nominate one city as host and may cast one vote, this however may not be for their nation. A nation may not host two consecutive Festivals.

4. That every two years[4], to be staggered with the Festival of Republics, a Tournament of Nations shall take place. This shall be a sporting event similar to the Mundus Games but on a smaller scale with each member nation choosing two Sports. The host shall be choosen by a panel made up of one representative per nation. Each representative may nominate one city as host and may cast one vote, this however may not be for their nation. A nation may not host two consecutive Tournaments.

5. The Network of Republics shall share information on criminal and acts considered terrorist by any member nation.

6. Members of the Network of Republics agree that they shall ensure any Tariffs in existence are no higher for members than for the lowest tariffed non-republic nation which does not hold a Trade Agreement.[5]

7. Member nations agree that should a natural disaster or national emergency befall a fellow member they shall take whatever action is within their power to offer support.

8. Member nations agree to an annual Council of Ministers. This shall take place in a rotation basis determined on the order by which this Treaty is signed. This Council shall be attended by either the Head of Government or their appointed person and shall discuss matters of international importance as well as co-operation between members.

9. This Treaty shall be open to any nation that has the governmental form of a republic, which shall be defined as one with an elected non hereditary leader, with a time limited term of office whom is not coronated so far as they ratify this Treaty.

10. A nation may leave this Treaty at any time by giving 30 days written notice.

11. This Treaty shall come into force from the ____________________________

Signed________________At Empire Bay D.C, Empire Bay, Bretonnian Republic

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 25, 2018, 12:28:36 PM

Selier nodded along as Vadik and Lavaud spoke, 'I am in agreement with the necessity to modify articles 5 and 7 as suggested. However with article 9 we definitely need to be able to agree on the definition of a republic. Article 5 should also define what constitutes a terrorist organisation that can then be recognised as such by the NoR since you all know the old adage "One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter".'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: DeaEstMachina on April 25, 2018, 12:39:44 PM

"My... colleague, I guess, Vice President Vadik, has raised some valid questions", interjected Nováková, "and I'd like to also offer a possible solution to the issue of our varying perception regarding 'terrorist' and 'criminal' groups. Now, I fear we wouldn't come to a common understanding any time soon if we drew up a list of organizations that we all agree on being vile and worthy of punishment, but at the same time the whole point would become void if we changed Article 5 in a way that would only require member nations to comply with it if they individually share the view of another nation that would demand such information or help."

She took another sip from her bottle, which again turned up from who-knows-where, and continued: "I propose to amend Article 5 in a way that allows member nations to deny requests for information or other help against criminal or terrorist organizations, but with the limitation that requests can only be denied concerning a single organization per country. That way it will be possible to protect certain interest groups from unjust oppression and at the same time what would possibly be a multitude of different criminal or extremist factions and groups will be forced to either be wiped out or join a single organization with views that are moderate enough to justify protection by their 'patron country' (the country that chose to deny help against them).
Of course, this will not bar any member nation from hunting down these organizations on their own if they so please."
The Commissar falls silent again, looking at the other conference attendants with an anxious expression on her face.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on April 25, 2018, 01:55:14 PM

"Woah, woah, woah" Vadik exclaimed, "What I've just heard is that we should consider actually protecting terrorists. I can imagine it now. Forgive me if I give a history lesson[1]. Your own neighbours" he addressed the Bretonnian leadership, "They are plagued by the Borlanders, an alternative bloodline to their own inflated monarchy. These Borlanders have murdered thousands, I well remember the scandal when they launched a missile into the middle of Freestone killing hundreds in the process. Now imagine East Moreland was a republic and a member of this network, and imagine that one of us knew something about the Borlanders acquiring these missiles. We have however someone who has mandated the Borlanders as their protected organisation, we then as a group condone the murder of innocents. If someone is a terrorist they are a terrorist. The first article of this organisation's proposed charter is " That Republics will act towards each other with friendship and kindness. " How is protecting someone wishing to do another harm achieving that aim. If we call the Bene Gesserit terrorists they should be treated as terrorists."

1.	more to help newer members understand what happened in the past.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 25, 2018, 02:26:14 PM

'I certainly agree with Mister Vadik, that system is totally open to abuse.' Seiler posited, 'I would say that article 5 not actually be limited to terrorists, but any armed military or paramilitary organisation that is not recognised by the national government as a friendly or allied legal entity.' He swirled his drink for a moment. 'As us Miteravians know even freedom fighting reduces stability and prosperity of a nation. I feel we should all be mandated to share any information of any risky behaviour, however minor or major, for the sake of democracy and our republican tradition.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Lakhzovia on April 25, 2018, 02:39:42 PM

Lakhzov Minister of Foreign Affairs Tesan Cikniye who had sat unobtrusively listening until this point finally decided to weigh in on the discussion.

"Lakhzovia is broadly inclined to view the proposal favourably, however we are in agreement with the Kaitane representative regarding the inappropriateness of article 9, we feel that this definition is far too prescriptive. rather we suggest that it simply define a republic as any government form in which the head of state is not a hereditary monarch. I believe this definition is broad enough to capture all self-declared republics while excluding monarchies.

In regards to the issue of intel sharing about terrorist activities I feel that it is vital that this be included in the agreement and I do not think it is helpful to propose some bizarre mechanism that allow states to protect a stipulated number of terrorist organisations.

The test should be to determine whether providing a piece of intel is balanced by the potential harm to the nation holding the information. For example say there is a request from nation A for information that nation B holds on the activities of a terrorist organisation. If the damage to nation A from non-disclosure outweighs the risk to nation B resulting from disclosure then nation B must disclose this information. However if there is no immediate threat to nation A and revealing this information would lead to damage for nation B then nation B should not have to provide this."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on April 25, 2018, 02:48:26 PM

"Expanding Article 5 out in that manner creates issues." Vadik looked squarely at his hosts, "For example in the past it is well known that Rokkenjima does not like Kaitaine, they even threatened us with sanctions relatively recently because of our responses to our developments of new technology, our struggles with the Bene Gesserit and some.....embassy misunderstandings. Now our hosts here are members of an organisation I believe is called LISA, part of that makes them allies and as such Bretonnia will be in a predicament. Their LISA obligations give them access to information we would find very useful such as naval deployments, radio frequencies and the like, should they be compelled to hand that information over to us? After all they could easily be perceived as a threat against us. In fact before they climbed down they deployed naval vessels to our region. Had this Network existed and Bretonnia a member of LISA, what information should they have passed to us? This article must be confined to terrorist organisations or we run the risk of placing members in a situation they can not win."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 25, 2018, 02:58:09 PM

'You are correct, Mr Vadik, so may I revise my statement to internal non-friendly organisation so in a situation like you just mentioned Bretonnia would not be forced to hand over any information.' President Seiler corrected. Turning to Minister Cikniye he continued 'I also do like your mechanism of risk-weighting, make the actuaries we employ earn their pay.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 25, 2018, 03:20:06 PM

"We agree with Vadik and Seiler, it's paramount that article 5 isn't going to be interpreted in a difficult, varied manner or we risk spilling each other's own national security that has nothing to do with terrorist organisations." Lavaud said, giving a look to everyone sat around the conference table, taking a coffee sip. "As for going back to article 9, are you then willing to allow nations such as the Ecclesiastical State and Lodja, considering they are as you say non hereditary heads of states?" Lavaud asked sternly, "The risk is that then both could be in this Republican-based organisation and our Monarchist-based one, drawing benefits as they see fit."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Lakhzovia on April 25, 2018, 03:33:25 PM

"Ah, See the problem." said Cikniye pondering the matter for a moment "Perhaps then the following definition: 'A Republic is recognised as any government form in which the head of state is not a hereditary monarch and which was established to be an expression of the popular mandate of a nations citizens.' Such a definition would exclude such governments as those of the Ecclesiastic States and Lodja."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on April 25, 2018, 03:33:50 PM

"Keeping the monarchs out is simple, the current Article 9 states clearly, that the nation must have an elected non hereditary leader, with a time limited term of office whom is not coronated. That rules out Lodja on several grounds, first they believe in their bizarre world that their Goddess, this Sussifeet woman, is within their Queen, therefore Sussifeet is Queen, that's hereditary and Lodja won't dare challenge it as of course that would mean denouncing their faith. The second reason Lodja is ruled out is their Queen has no time limited office. The same issue applies to this Pope character, they are not re-elected every say five years, their in the job till they die. I therefore believe the current Article 9 is sufficient if we remove the ability of anyone here to block new members."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 25, 2018, 03:41:51 PM

"Indeed we say to the both of you in terms of the thinking, especially Vadik here...Do we have additional inputs in regards to articles 5, 7 and 9 respectively?" Lavaud asked.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Muneski on April 25, 2018, 04:08:05 PM

HE agreed.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Glitchy on April 25, 2018, 05:04:41 PM

It seems that the weather hadn't been kind to Sutherland's plans. The land was already cursed by an ever present heatwave, but today there just had to be storms rolling into Malboura. Jacob Gathum, the relatively young, light skinned, brown haired, blue eyed and averagely built Sutherian diplomat had to watch the initial moments of the meeting intently on a tablet on his private flight into Bretonnia. He couldn't wait for the pizza, it was absolutely mouth-watering. Once the flight touched down in the Bretonnian runway, Jacob wasted no time in rushing to his destination, though not before he tidied his black pinstripe suit, gelled up his head of hair and ensured his bags were packed. The distinguished man quickly made his way through the airport, gliding through security measures and ID checks to the outside of the airport, where he met his official escort waiting for him.

As the drive lagged on he kept his eyes away from the eye-candy of the city around him, and instead had them glued to his tablet screen. He had watched as the meeting went from small-talk, to the plage outbreak, to the reason they were all there and now a tiny yet important definition of the term 'republic' in the draft. Bloody rubbish, Jacob thought to himself, this should've been sorted earlier, but I suppose that's partially what the meeting's about.

The thought receeded from Jacob's mind, and as it did the escort vehicle came to ia stop as the driver simply looked back to Jacob and nodded,, signaling that they were at their destination. Jacob exited with all his luggaage, tablet still in hand, and made his way through the building. Eventually, after some help from friendly workers in the building, Jacob found his way to the meeting room. He stood outside the large door, taking a couple of breaths before he would essentially march on in there. He breathed, in, and out.

"G'day mates!" Jacob declared as he pushed open the door for the meeting room, entering as he did. "I am the diplomatic, and unfortunately late, representative of Sutherland at this meeting" He continued as he made his way to the leftover pizza. He took a slice and continued speaking, or suitably mumbling as he munched on some pizza, "Mmmm, this is good pizza. Anyways, Sutherland agrees with the definiton put forth by Cikniye"

He got the impression from President Lauvard that this was a friendly occassion, but Jacob hoped he hadn't just gone too casual.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 25, 2018, 05:33:31 PM

'Good day to you to too Mister...er...' Seiler looked down at the guest list to figure out the diplomats name, 'Gathum, yes yes, good day Mister Gathum. I must agree with you, we too accept the definition laid out by the Lakhzovian delegation. Does any party not agree and wish to object?'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 25, 2018, 05:44:34 PM

"To repeat this once more, We consider The Kaitaine stance on the definition regarding republics, meaning it shall remain unchanged whilst removing the part of 70% majority rejecting an applicant member" Pomeroy said.

"Welcome Matey mate, oh I wouldn't call that late as we only touched the tip of the ice berg and do east as much dogs and pizza as you want!" Lavaud greeted his Sutherlandian colleague.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: RobertAgira on April 25, 2018, 06:39:41 PM

"I have an issue" Hugo Lascelles said standing, "Frankly I'm amazed no one has said anything sooner. Here we are, the Republics of the world and in our midst we have Kaitaine, a nation that was once the Tag-Team partner of the Union of Soviet Rodina, a global superpower and the instigator of more conflicts than I can count. Once there leader even took a WMD to a meeting such as this, yet here we have the King elect of that nation sat here. And yes I do mean King, we have the McPherson dynasty, all powerful, a democracy on paper and that is all, and the successor already in place. Perhaps Vadik here can inform us of how many votes he got....oh that's right ZERO" he held up a ring made between his thumb and fingers as to emphasis his point. If we permit Kaitaine to join this Network they will become stronger. They will be able to play the system to get information they require, access to our nations. Who here even has an embassy with Kaitaine? And lets remember that just six months ago we discovered that they had sleeper agents in almost EVERY nation in Mundus."

"Do we not see that already he is trying to impose the way of Kaitaine on this group. It may be a small thing but he seeks to stop the use of the phrase "act of God" because of their athiest belief. Had that been the sole reason I could understand but lets remember Kaitaine bans every religion, it locks up those expressing a faith and it murders the Bene Gesserit, a group he is trying to get you to call terrorists just because they have the strength to stand up for their belief. I for one will not permit my nation to be aligned with one that would glady deny our faith, my religious Order in the past carried out great slaughters for our faith, we today look back on that and see that despite the desire to great good there was great evil committed. We would have been stopped had someone have said no this is not permissable and stood against the evils committed. We have changed our ways, we now engage in dialouge with those of other faiths, we learn and teach faith and we show love to all. These are not traits Kaitaine is capable of.

This comes down to a decision, do we wish to open the gates of this network to every Republic, help it grow stronger, help its economy grow and help it spread its influence or do we wish to critically evaluate those joining to ensure the strength, prosperity and influence we give members is not given to a nation that stands contradictory to all many of us hold dear. I guess its decision time, then and only then is it worth discussing articles."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 25, 2018, 07:04:19 PM

Seiler leaned forward over the table slightly, 'I see your point Knight Commander Lascelles and I understand why you hold such distaste for Mister Vadik and his nation. However in the interest of fairness should they not be allowed a seat at the table? A dialogue should be opened after all they will not abandon any of their more authoritarian traits on their own, I believe it to be possible of all nations to see the light in liberty but as of now they don't so they must be allowed to have a seat at the table, excluding them will change nothing and possibly even exacerbate the issue further if they see you, I and other members as foes not potential friends.' He tugged on his blazer to regain his train of thought.
'That said I do agree with Mister Vadik's suggestion of the omission of the 'acts of God' section, not out of state-enforced atheism but out of the liberty to choose whether or not to recognise a deity; the phrase 'act of God' states for certain there is some form of higher being, however I'm given to believe most god or gods are seen as 'natural' within their respective faiths thus meaning an 'act of God' would be considered a natural disaster meaning 'act of God' are not explicitly excluded from that clause.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: RobertAgira on April 25, 2018, 07:28:04 PM

"Would you offer a hungry lion a place at your table?" Hugo retorted, "While this particular nation is given a seat at the table they will be benefiting from the wads of intelligence they may gather on our nations, they will be able to use that information and freedom to persecute people back home in Kaitaine. They will be free to send their espionage agents to any of our nations with ease and have them operate under the blanket of diplomatic immunity. Allowing a nation that has stated its wish to ensure a Communist future for the whole of Mundus that kind of oppurtunity is insane. Miteravia may as well just hand over their governments hard drives to Pasternak here if they wish to share a seat at the table with them. As for the act of God issue this is a matter of freedom of expression and a freedom of faith. Let me remind you the reason Kaitaine wish to have this removed for is because they state there is no God. Well I state there is, the one perfect God in heaven, and by denying my right to state "Act of God" you are denying my freedom of faith and my freedom of religion. Is it this denial of a person's rights the Network of Republics wishes to be built upon."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 25, 2018, 08:23:36 PM

The Bretonnian Presidential couple listened with reason on Hugo's warning regarding the red Kaitaine, especially the alarming concerns raised, with Lavaud stating:

"Mr. Vadik here needs to give a response to all the valid points brought up and the obvious agenda that the Kaitaine representatives are trying to impose on all of us; we haven't for example had any problems arising from the BG community within Bretonnia however at the same time no quarrels to our knowledge with communists HOWEVER as our society is not only built on republicanism but also freedom of expression and beliefs, it would indeed seem odd for an organisation such as this one acting in a contradictory and hypocritical fashion by trying to accomodate two sets of opposing notions, as much as I also respect Mr. Seiler here for acceptance of other dissenting voices and opinions. I can see now clearly the strange reasoning for removing a majority 70% vote for deciding the rejection of an applying nation or not, for the exact same reason as the Knight Commander pointed out, to be able to conduct a screening making sure said 'republic' is adhering to the charter. Combine with the past and surely recent history placing sleeper agents in each and every nation of non-communist virtues, where some of us hold Democratic elections, as well as the ultimate goal of spreading a controversial and in some aspects toxic ideology to all corners of Mundus. So unless Mr. Vadik can convince us otherwise, I'm afraid the representatives of Kaitaine have no other choice than to leave this room peacefully and respectfully."

Lavaud ended, the SS agents having their hands ready to draw their service weapons if need be. Pomeroy nodded while drinking a water-filled glass.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 25, 2018, 08:39:04 PM

Seiler explained to the Mountjoy delegation 'Oh I wasn't for a second going to deny you your right to say that a disaster afflicting your nation was indeed an act of god, I was merely saying we include all disasters under one non-denominational term of natural disaster but at the end of the day it is a discussion over semantics and therefore unimportant in the grand scheme of things. I am unable to insist the Kaitaine representatives stay however if nations feel Kaitaine will abuse its position with the NoR then excluded them from Article 5 bilaterally, it still allows them to be included and reduces the risk of abuse of power.' He sat back in his seat. 'I am also unable to override the process of democracy, if the majority wish for the expulsion of Kaitaine I will wash my hand of it but accept the verdict.'

Seiler lent over a whispered to his aide in their native language. He passed the aide a bottle of water as the man left the room; Seiler opened his own bottle and drank a significant proportion of it. Wiping his brow, he place the bottle back on the table and adjusted his collar.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on April 25, 2018, 08:57:41 PM

Vadik chuckled as the three nations spoke. "Oh come on, lets get real" he stood, "Hands up those nations in this room that don't employ spies and agents? We simply got more creative than you all, yes we got busted but I suspect I could take out my phone and have spies from many of your nations sat in McPherson's office back home before I even finished digesting this pizza. As for our past, yes we've killed, yes we've at times been brutal, hell our virtous friend here from Mountjoy even admitted his own so called religious order has blood on its hands. Our Miterav friend here, their nation has the blood of the The War of Wheat in their past, yet I don't hear any of you commenting on that.

Now as for why we are the only nation with Bene Gesserit problems, something I'd actually say is a lie by the way, that is simple Kaitaine was before our people's revolution the homeland of that ridicuolous cult. Thanks to our people's sacrifice and determination we stopped it spreading its web of terror across Mundus. It is by our blood you remain unsullied from its stench. The world began opening up to them, buying into their ridicolous propaganda and the world gave them a chance, and what did they do what that chance? I'll tell you, they attempted to steal nuclear waste from East Moreland, any guesses what they'd do with that? You want to criticise us for standing toe to toe with the bully that wants nuclear weapons? Does that really sound like a reasonable move?

This organisation is named the Network of Republics, we are a Republic, we took up the invite and read the same charter as everyone else around here and we are willing to abide by it. All we ask is for a few slight changes to make the Network more effective. Now I even have a suggestion for a way forward, why not change the article to "Natural Disaster/Act of God" That way we can please Mountjoys religious craziness while at the same time showing these are in fact what they are, natural disasters. See everybody happy."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: DeaEstMachina on April 26, 2018, 02:28:32 PM

The Atherojan Commissar had listened to the debate with increasing nervosity, but apparently mustered the courage to speak up once more:
"Kaitaine's representative is right. It may be disputable how democratic their Republic really is, but that is true for all nations gathered here. It's certainly not something to bicker about now, as we came together to forge our common principles into a Network that will serve as inspiration for democratic movements everywhere. We surely don't want to become the laughing stock of those who accuse democracy of being a failed system that primary causes endless disagreement, would we? So please, let's stop with the talk about expulsion. It most likely stems from underlying anti-communist sentiments anyway."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 27, 2018, 10:36:10 PM

President Lavaud simply sighed while VP Pomeroy felt as if he were to bang his head on the table repeatedly, to think they had to squabble about a potential member's eligibility, well it was decided that the way forward was through democracy alone. "Alright ladies and gentlemen considering we've reached a standstill regarding Kaitaine's eligibility to join NoR, I propose all of us gathered around this table except us Bretonnia and Kaitaine vote; Yes for letting Kaitaine join, No for Rejecting said country...You may begin now." Lavaud simply said.

OOC: I'll probably give this around 48 hrs, so take the chance to say yes or no, PLS.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on April 27, 2018, 10:55:33 PM

Vadik grinned, "I propose that we should first hold a vote on whether Bretonnia be permitted to join, or perhaps Mountjoy, Miteravia even? After all it would appear that we are being victimised for our political ideology. How can this organisation recognise the independence of Republics if it is saying one Republic may not join because we are Communist and stand by our ideals? How is banning Kaitaine from joining even before we have a charter agreed understanding the need for international co-operation? I'll tell you now this is not the way to go about celebrating the uniqueness of nations, if we are not permitted to become a member, should we choose, you are creating an echo-chamber full only of opinions and points of view that conform to your own. I was hopeful this charter could begin to see Republics co-operate in a way that to date only the monarchies of Mundus have, but instead I am forced to watch this blatant bias. I therefore propose if Kaitaine is to be voted on each nation be voted on."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 28, 2018, 01:21:55 AM

'In the interest of inclusion Miteravia would vote yes to the joining of any nation with a representative currently present at the table. The political ideology of a nation does not effect Miteravia's ability to co-operate with a nation, it may effect cohesion but not our willingness to try.' Seiler nodded profusely. 'So we vote yes to Kaitaine's memebership and urge you all to do the same however, Mr Vadik, I believe other votes would be excessive provided your nation is included.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: RobertAgira on April 28, 2018, 10:14:08 AM

"For all the reasons outlined Mountjoy opposes the admission of Kaitaine."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on April 30, 2018, 07:15:34 PM

After giving everyone a moment to vote either yes or no, President Lavaud felt a bit disappointed over the lack of commitment as everyone else remained silent throughout the entire ordeal, which was one aspect of so-called democracy he despised the most, namely when people are given the opportunity yet hesitate to act upon it. "Very well ladies and gentlemen, there weren't enough votes to disqualify Kaitaine from joining NoR as democracy at its finest has spoken ou in favor of said nation. Knight Commander I understand your concerns and hesitation to involve Kaitaine in this organisation which are well-grounded however as you noticed...Ths is why I don't have any quarrels if Mountjoy chooses to exit this room if it would come into conflict with personal values." Lavaud said, turning his attention to Mr. Vadik. "I hope Mr. Vadik and Co representing Kaitaine that only honesty, integrity and full transparency will henceforth emit from your republic upon being a member of NoR after listening to some of the concerns; mark our words that if there would be any infracture hereby after, membership will be withdrawn." Lavaud warned, he was willing to try but wouldn't be surprised if the Commies relapsed into dishonorable behaviour.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on April 30, 2018, 07:30:23 PM

With the conclusion of Lavuad's announcement Seiler stood from his seat and did the button on his blazer. He cleared his throat
'I believe it in everyone's best interest I address this interest.' He said, placing his hands behind his back and puffing his chest out slightly. 'Thank you to those that participated in the vote,' nodding to the Mountjoy delegation, 'and thank you for those who maintained their silence if they did not strongly enough feel a conviction to cast their vote. Now Mister Vadik...'
Seiler's expression changed, it became slightly more stern. 'Miteravia has extended you an olive branch that many wished not be extended, I trust you will take this opportunity and not to make the Miterav government look a fool now. And for everyone else's sake play nice with the capitalists.'
Seiler retook his seat, he thought to himself what the consequences of being the sole vote allowing Kaitaine's membership to the NoR would be if his optimism was misplaced. Rubbing his palms together lightly he thought 'We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: RobertAgira on April 30, 2018, 10:45:14 PM

Hugo Lascelles stood, "You have just opened your national security to a rouge nation" he said as he buttoned up his jacket. "Mountjoy has no intention of being used as a pawn in an international game of witch hunting. We are a nation that will stand by our principles no matter what. Kaitaine seek to erode the ability of people to follow their faith, as a Christian I can not and will not condone that. I will not allow my Christian military to be used to persecute the Bene Gesserit, something which you now have via the back door committed to." With that he headed for the door turning to Lavuad "Thank you for the hospitality" he simply opened the door and disappeared leaving the room behind him. The meeting hadn't gone the way he'd wanted but at least he was pleased he'd maintained his nations principled stance.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: guest163 on May 01, 2018, 12:33:03 AM

Elyot was silent, he refused to vote for the disqualification of Kaitaine, he thought for an entire minute and he got up with his cane and fixed his robe. "As a representative for The Commonwealth, we hold our stance on pacifism and neutrality and we withdraw our possible membership to the NoR, we won't disqualify Kaitaine's membership but we would not allow them to harm people's right to practice their faith." He stood from his sit and headed to the door where Lavaud stood near. "Thank you for the dear kindness, President Lavaud." He lefted the conference room and proceeded to the car while he's security followed suit. He did not expect the meeting to go to that direction, but he stood by he's principles and this is for the good of The Commonwealth.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on May 01, 2018, 09:58:56 AM

"Thank you Elyot for your presence here, you may leave this room with full dignity and honor intact" President Lavaud simply said, saddened over the fact that two potential members walked out of NoR due to such controversies but there was nothing he could do when practicalities came into conflict with personal values. "Anyone else wants to leave? So please do so now, as I'll now proceed further with this convention; Are there anymore criticisms regarding the presented articles or is it agreed fruitfully? Might I also take the opportunity to remind everyone not to tailor this treaty according to one's own national interests and agenda including world domination, please take into consideration of others...to think I've been compelled to do so at such a high level." Lavaud said in a bitter tone.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on May 02, 2018, 10:55:28 AM

Vadik was rather pleased with how things had gone, he'd have actually preferred Mountjoy to have remained but he wasn't going to lose any sleep over things.

"If I may" Vadik placed a copy of the charter on the table, "While you were discussing our fate I took the liberty, trusting you'd reach the sensible decision you have, to make some suggestions." With that he placed his amended copy of the charter on the table.

Spoiler: Vadik version • show

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Tamed_Untamed on May 02, 2018, 11:14:38 AM

Hayat Ben Barka was the selected man for the job. However, she was running late. She almost got left behind by her plane and now she was trying her best to get as fast as she could to the meeting for the Republics, hoping to God that she will not get left behind too. As she held her documents to her heart and her driver drove as fast as he could without breaking a law, Hayat Ben Barka tried to remember what she would say on behalf of the country and what she would have to sign, hoping that it was not too late.

Soon enough, she reached the building, rushing out of the car, leaving the door open, leaving some papers behind as she rushed inside and up the stairs, looking for the meeting room.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 02, 2018, 05:26:15 PM

'Personally, I take issue with the amendments to Article 5.' Seiler began, 'The idea that any nation can just decide an organisation is a terrorist organisation opens the door to significant abuse, I think it should require at the bare minimum one if not two nations to second the motion when declaring an organisation criminal.'
Seiler rubbed his hands together. 'If this was the case, Mister Vadik, if Mountjoy had stayed they could've declared communist activists terrorists without limitation then of course customarily communist nations such as your own could declare peaceful Christian missionaries terrorists also. Petty diplomatic disputes could be born from an organisation meant to bring us closer together, not ideal if you ask me.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on May 02, 2018, 05:35:58 PM

President Lavaud couldn't agree more with Seiler's comment, "Our Miteravian colleague here's absolutely right, the fact that there doesn't seem to indicate exactly what constitutes a terrorist organisation will only cause more problems and controversies in the long run; what if as he pointed out a few communists cause havock in Bretonnia, does that give our government the right to label every other communist as terrorist and declare the ideology to be outlawed? Likewise with every other ideology and religion; fascists, muslims...heck even Atheists. We Bretonnians have recently recognised the Bene Gesserit as an official minority religion however distancing from the terrible actions caused by the Truth Sayers; I think one of the issues which need to be solved is thus the distinctions within ideologies and religons if we were to include article 5." Lavaud concluded.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Snackz on May 03, 2018, 07:51:32 AM

Artyom Basuda arrived to the Convention a little later than expected. He had just been caught up in a street brawl between the transport minister and a homeless man, resulting in the pair beating up the transport minister. He arrived at the center in a suit that he almost forgot to put on. He walked into the meeting room and apologized for him being late. He introduced himself and the nation he represented, being Artyomov's representative.
"So comrades, what have i missed?"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM

'Well Mister Basuda, you just missed the vote allowing Kaitaine's admittance to the Network and the subsequent temper tantrum thrown by the representatives of Mountjoy. And the Iypranian Commonwealth also withdrew their membership.' Seiler smiled. 'I'm Eryk Seiler, President of Miteravia by the way, nice to finally make your acquaintance. It is such a shame you were delayed, Lascelles' grandstanding was quite a sight to behold.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Snackz on May 03, 2018, 12:15:33 PM

"Please, Just Call me Artyom. It is a pleasure to meet you, Seiler. So..." Artyom took out a flask and had a large sip. After that, he brought out a bag full of spirits that were hand made. He gave one to each person. "Who is still here in this association?" He sat down in an empty chair and removed his suit jacket and untied his hair. "Oh and I have not eaten anything other than leftover MREs since I left Artyomov. Where can I get a bite?"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on May 03, 2018, 12:46:24 PM

Vadik was keen to get the business concluded as soon as possible and get back home and so turned matters back towards the charter. "In terms of the terrorist recognition I believe we can overcome people's fears by not changing my proposal but adding a definition. So I therefore propose the following,

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5. The Network of Republics shall share information on criminal activity and organisations branded terrorists by any member, that may effect other nations.

An organisation for the purpose of this article will be defined as any group the following criteria can apply to.

a) Is not a sovereign government
b) Is not a recognised faith.
c) Has been proved beyond reasonable doubt to have acted outside the requesting nations laws.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on May 03, 2018, 02:08:38 PM

"Thank you Mr. Basuda, I'm sure we can have a go at these fine spirits once the treaty's done and we can all celebrate..." President >Lavaud said taking an extra look at the added definition. "It definitely looks a lot better now with such definiton in place, so from our side I don' t think there are any issues left at hand while maintaining the viewpoint that we will only share information's that's considered to be relevant enough relating to terrorism deemed so by our intelligence agencies...Does this definition seem fair to everyone gathered around this very table?" he asked.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: DeaEstMachina on May 03, 2018, 03:19:14 PM

"Atheroje agrees with the definition and will support the charta in its current form", answered Nováková. During the discussion she was reading a telegram one of her aides brought her, and while the content caused her face to become quite pale, she did not comment on it publicly as it seemed to not be of relevance to the meeting.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 03, 2018, 05:35:49 PM

'Certainly acceptable,' agreed Seiler 'The definition protects all nation's interests sufficiently.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on May 04, 2018, 12:23:58 AM

"Excellent" Vadik clapped his hands together as he stood up, "I believe that's probably an agreement reached then, where do we sign" he smiled. "Perhaps though I have a final suggestion." With that he sat down, "Perhaps we should create a position of Network Ambassador, have them present to the Network of Monarchs an offer of friendship, say Articles 2 & 5 offer to co-operate, and maybe every two years a meeting between the two Networks to promote global issues? We could also use the Ambassador for crisis moments?"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Snackz on May 04, 2018, 01:24:05 PM

As Artyom read the treaty form, he thought about article 5, and how his nation could use this to help his comrades and gather more intel on the Chernyan Militants that have the capacity to become a larger threat to the nation. He looked up and
"Hmmm..." Artyom pondered briefly on the thought of the definition. "I Agree. But on another note, how will we react if a terrorist group threatens the security of a republic? Will we have our comrades' backs if a terrorist group has the, er, capability to flatten a city?" He slammed his palm down onto the table to symbolize the destruction of a city. He then took another drink from his flask and began to speak once more.
"Maybe we should have a classification system for terrorist groups, which include their influence, their size, and their deadliness!"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on May 04, 2018, 02:27:25 PM

"The Network allows already for co-operation through the ability to call ambassadors for meetings. Therefore once a threat has been determined we can work together to address that threat. This is the very nature of terrorism there is no one size fits all solution and each group must be tackled on its own circumstances, the same goes with nation, as soon as we start categorising terrorist groups we see them as being equally threatening across all of Mundus, we know that is the case, take The Borlanders who claim to be the rightful owners of East Moreland's Kingdom. They are considered a great threat if your King David, but to us in Kaitaine they are just something to watch on the news. Now I understand that my friend from Artyom have issues with the Chernyan, and I would like to remind him Kaitaine have offered meetings with his nation in the past, and our door remains open, but as an actual threat to Kaitaine and how deadly they are to us, they would be a low priority, that does not mean we should ignore them but as we rank order, categories and determine threats of a group we run that risk. It is much better that nations simply share their data and leave it to those nations targeted to determine matters such as deadliness for themselves."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on May 04, 2018, 03:22:07 PM

"I agree wholeheartedly about the creation of a Network Ambassador and increased cooperation with our monarchist nations, nothing better than solving Mundus' largest issues together and united." Lavaud responded. "Personally we don't need to include that in the treaty unless there's a large request for it. In any case does everyone here agree with said proposition or any further editing before we can all sign the treaty into action?"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 04, 2018, 05:42:38 PM

Seiler produced his Statesmen's pen (https://www.cross.com/en-gb/products/at0045cb-38) from his inner jacket pocket, the pen was a beautiful piece of kit; a Cherry Blossom platinum-plated Fountain Pen, the same one he had used to sign the constitution.
'Certainly agreeable, my friends. I am a fan of attempting to strengthen the ties we have with the monarchist nations within our cousin so the Network Ambassador post certainly has Miteravia's backing. The treaty is now more than to our taste as well. As for the definition of terrorism for the purposes of this treaty, Kaitaine laid out a more subjective approach to the situation which I consider to be the most pragmatic method.'
Seiler spun the pen between his fingers, waiting for any further comments so the signing of the treaty could commence.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: DeaEstMachina on May 06, 2018, 04:33:09 AM

"Wait, wait, wait. The purpose of this network was to promote the ideas of democracy across Mundus, and to serve as a democratic pendant against the organized Monarchists, wasn't it? We even discussed rejecting a potential member because they don't fit into the predominant view on what a democracy is. But now, as soon as someone mentions terrorism, there's suddenly talk of unity and cooperation with the Monarchists?" Nováková seemed genuinely shocked. "Atheroje will sign this treaty no matter what, but we must protest harshly on this matter!"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Tamed_Untamed on May 06, 2018, 05:22:32 AM

Hayat Ben Barka finally got to the room, panting and sweating and in a mess with her clothes. She sighed as she raised a hand and said "I...am...so sorry...I am late....I'm from Sirinisi. I hope I can still join in...." She looked around as her vision blurred, having to rush into the room. She said "I....uh....am I late? I am so sorry again. My name is Hayat Ben Barka. I am the Sirinisian rep....representative. I..." She looked for a vacant chair, seeing one, she leaned on the door and said "I..could really use a chair."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 06, 2018, 10:04:28 AM

'Madam Nováková, I believe the purpose of...dialogue with monarchists was not for unity and co-operation but more a reconciliation of differences, I don't believe anyone wished to have Article 5 extended to included the monarchists because if this was the case Miteravia would be with you. I don't think the purpose of the Network Ambassador is to make the monarchists part of the NoR but to alleviate any tensions that exists because of our differing ideologies.' Seiler interjected. He turned to the Sirinisian representative,
'Oh, I believe there's a chair over there,' Seiler indicated at the same chair she had noticed a moment earlier. He waved to an aide who helped Hayat in to her seat. The aide brought her up to speed with the events of the meeting so far.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on May 07, 2018, 12:43:05 AM

Vadik nodded as the Miteravian delegate spoke. "I think you've summed up exactly what role I had for this proposed ambassador, think of them as some kind of pressure valve, a direct line to discuss issues peacefully. Something I hope we never need but then I would rather have something and never use it rather than need it and want for it. Perhaps we should move to signing unless anyone else has any suggestions." Vadik looked around the room hopefully

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Snackz on May 07, 2018, 11:46:02 PM

Artyom was listening quietly while thinking of what he was going to do whilst in Bretonnia.
"Yes, even if it is a bit hasty I think that we should sign the document," he said while he grabbed a pen he had in his pocket. "Alright, lets get to work"

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on May 11, 2018, 10:51:06 PM

"Well it seems we can very well sign now!" President Lavaud exclaimed as he picked up his pen to begin signing.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: DeaEstMachina on May 12, 2018, 09:28:45 PM

The Atherojan envoy too pulled out a pen - a simple aluminium ballpoint - and signed on behalf of the Socialist People's Republic.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Snackz on May 13, 2018, 07:17:20 AM

The pen made contact with the sheet of paper and the ballpoint in the pen rolled along the document. Ink was left in a trail that was purposely designed to look like Artyom's name

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 13, 2018, 08:15:21 AM

The document had made it's way to the Miteravian delegation, with his pen already in hand Seiler signed his name alongside the other signatories.
'Perfect.' He exclaimed as he passed the document on.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on May 13, 2018, 12:42:02 PM

Vadik reached into his jacket pocket and placed two envelopes on he table. He picked up the pen and wrote clearly, "On Behalf of the People of Kaitaine" and then added his signature. "It may be early but our optimism in this organisation was high from the beginning. I therefore now wish to present the organisation with the following documents" He opened the first and unfolded the thick creamy paper. "This one authorises Kseniya here to have access to any information you have relevant to the Truthsayers and Bene Gesserit in your nation, in accordance with the treaty of course. You may deal with her as with myself or President McPherson." he then undid the second, "This one is a formal request for you to recognise and support the East Moreland Uppsala Convention (https://independentorder.net/index.php?topic=812.0) proposal. I do believe most of you are compliant with that document are you not? As a Network we must stand in support of initiatives to end child soldiers."

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Miteravia on May 13, 2018, 01:02:06 PM

'Certainly.' Seiler began, 'Miteravia saw the use of child soldiers during the civil war by both sides. It is awful form for any organisation to use such tools. The foreign ministry has informed me that a response is in the making at the moment.'

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: The Young Pope on May 20, 2018, 04:00:02 PM

"Well the only relevant information we got on these truthsayers are none at all and as for the 2nd request, we would rather wait and analyze the situation further." Lavaud simply said, disappointed that this entire organisation might've simply become communist puppets.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Tamed_Untamed on May 21, 2018, 07:45:19 AM

After Hayat Ben Barka got caught up to everything she missed so far, she sighed and pulled out a small pen that was colored blue and then used that to sign a document confirming the membership of Sirinisi into the Network of Republics. Then she paid attention to the discussion about child soldiers. She cringed at it, feeling very personally opposed to the use of child soldiers. Her nation also felt that way.

Title: Network of Republics Resolution 2: The Kingdom of Boreland
Post by: Miteravia on July 10, 2018, 11:41:01 PM

(https://independentorder.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=101;type=avatar)

On behalf of the Democratic States of Miteravia, it is my solemn task to inform the Network that a Miteravian Citizen has been killed in East Moreland as a result of the devastating attacks carried out by the so-called "Kingdom of Boreland". This news has not yet broken in the Miteravian News but will do so accordingly. This attack on Morelander sovereignty has resulted in an attack against Miteravia, in accordance with the Charter of the Network of Republics , we move that the "Kingdom of Boreland" and any other militarised Borelander separatism movements be considered terrorists organisations thus requiring the sharing of all intelligence about their activities.

Most faithfully,

-Minister Dominik Schweizer

OOC- I'm taking Resolution 1 as being Kaitaine's designation of the BG Theocracy as terrorists.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Baal on March 08, 2019, 02:34:46 AM

President Cheong Johannes Mayama of the Republic of Biseam quietly and calmly sat down Ï'm sorry, the door was open so I just entered."He said with his usual dry wit.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on March 08, 2019, 08:17:51 AM

This ideally needs moving across as the deals been done.

You'd ideally need to apply for membership.

Title: Re: A Proposal of the Network of Republics
Post by: Libby on March 08, 2019, 09:26:54 AM

As the charter says any Republic is eligible to join then Biseam is in.

Shiny HQ for future members to contact https://independentorder.net/index.php?topic=1318.msg11289;topicseen#msg11289

3.	Or annually for RP purpose
4.	Or annually for RP purpose
5.	May need reworking, but essentially Bretonnia would, for example, not be able to charge Heyra a 10% Tariff on Steel, if they charged ES (monarchy) 7% and ES had the lowest steel Tariff of any non-agreement nation. HELP!!!!

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