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The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« on: January 14, 2020, 12:45:44 PM »

LETTER FROM THE PALACE OF QUINTELIA

To her Divine Majesty of Kodumaa,

I, along with President Feish of the Reunified Socialist Federation of New Derusmia and Emperor Jingduming of the Second Imperial Chinese Republic, would like to visit your nation as representatives of our respective states to discuss about a few things. Kodumaa is not only situated at the southern borders of Quintelia and SICR, but also houses a sizeable minority of Chinese and Quintelian people; with this said, it is quite remarkable to say that there are no treaties or agreements between our current governments. We would also like to discuss concerns mainly in the South Ardian region and in our continent and how we can effectively take action on it.

In an unrelated note, I personally am very interested in discovering the Kodumaan culture, especially in the aesthetic and gastronomic field. It would be great to experience Kodumaa, especially Stolitsa, as a tourist after the talks. We would like to hear from her majesty as soon as possible.

Truly yours,
King Lapu
Kingdom of Quintelia

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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2020, 08:40:57 PM »

To: His Majesty King Lapu


I Celestial Empress & Absolute Sovereign Myna Anastasia Sygvaldi II accept to host this meeting. Kodumaa is an industrious nation that has been governed by the Sygvaldi Dynasty for over 600 years, we have been quiet on the international stage. However, in turbulent times such as these I find myself the need to be more active in terms of foreign policy if I am to ensure the safety and security of Kodumaan interests.

Stolitsa will be the host city of the summit between us four and the Talvi Palace will be the palace of meeting. I am looking forward to meeting all of you soon.


Yours Sincerely
Myna Anastasia Sygvaldi II
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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2020, 08:01:02 AM »
Jinduming stepped off the airplane, glancing in the direction of the mountains in the distance. The black monoliths with their bright white peaks resembled the ones he was used to back in the Imperial Republic, but they lacked the ancient stone walls that lined the slopes of Nanjing's outer city area.

He'd left the SICR with a few basic negotiations in mind - allow the Kodumaan Chinese to interact with Nestland dragonaii and a basic trade deal. Hoping it would go well, he patiently stood waiting for President Feish and King Lapu to arrive.
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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2020, 07:27:10 AM »

As the plane came in for final approach, Feish took note of his surroundings. Kodumaa was a completely new place to him, and its culture and landscape varied from that of his own nation. There were barely any Derusmic nationals living in Kodumaa, however there were many tourists that visited to make up for it. One of the only things that were similar between Feish’s nation and  Kodumaa was the size of economy and population. Today’s meeting would be quite interesting, to say the least.

Upon landing, Ebston joined his Dragonaii counterpart and began waiting for their drunk friend, the Quintelian King to arrive.

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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2020, 01:10:14 PM »


King Lapu took an Uburzis blimp instead of a plane on his way to Stolitsa. This allowed him a calmer and quieter ride, letting the King enjoy the mountains of Quintelia and the skylines of Kodumaan cities along the way. While the zeppelin was landing, Lapu took a sip of his Cenneg whiskey and hid his flask in his coat pocket.

King Lapu approached and greeted his fellow SANE leaders, waiting for the Kodumaan delegates to arrive.

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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2020, 08:59:33 AM »
(OOC: I'm just going have you guys arrive, for the sake of speeding this up and my sanity)

The leaders of SANE made thier own prospective ways to the Pearl Palace.


After the Dignitaries arrived they were directed by palace staff to the Empress' Throne Room


Empress Myna Anastasia Sygvaldi III was wearing a golden lined dress with all elaborate rococo like patterns with the sun in the centre of the chest of the dress. She spoke with a rather soft spoken and regal tone, but at the same time the ton of voice was rather casual. "Ah nice to see all of you made it. I trust the journey wasn't too difficult. Also Your Majesty is that your blimp outside? " She says with a slight chuckled in her voice and grin on her face as she turned her head to King Lapu

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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2020, 09:29:54 AM »
King Lapu smiled at the Empress as he adjusted his Seleucid sword. “Well, it was a short flight so I thought I could use my blimp. I wanted to contribute my share to reducing my emissions, and I got a better look of Stolitsa and the surrounding landscape. The Uburzis do have a reason to be proud of their zeppelins.” The King, trying his best not to ogle and gaze at the golden domes and sparkling chandeliers. “If you may, I’d like to open our first proposition between our nations.”

“I believe that we shall start with a basic treaty between SANE members and Kodumaa, starting with basic diplomacy and trade:”
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Section I - Diplomacy
(1) The parties agree to maintain active embassies with each other. If summoned an ambassador shall present themselves to the host government within twenty four hours of the summons.

(2) Either party may request a twelve hour extension upon receipt of the summons should a level of seniority be required due to the issue concerned.

(3) The parties declare that they shall act in a spirit of friendship and cooperation with a view to further developing and fostering economic and cultural intercourse with one another, each adhering to the principle of respect for the independence and sovereignty of the other and non-interference in their internal affairs.

(4) Should disputes or conflicts arise between the High Contracting Parties over problems of one kind or another, both parties shall settle these disputes or conflicts exclusively through friendly exchange of opinion or, if necessary, through the establishment of arbitration commissions.

(5) The parties shall allow citizens of the other nation to apply for a fast track visas aiding in travel between the two nations for purpose of trade, recreation, and business. These visas shall be available to anyone who meets the following criteria

(a) Has a stay lasting no longer than 100 days
(b) Has a return ticket
(c) Is able to fund the duration of their stay.
(d) Has no criminal record
(e) Is not deemed a threat to national security.
(f) All requirements have been fulfilled in accordance to local laws and procedures when conducting trade and/or business.

(6) The parties agree to the establishment of a system of extradition for persons accused of crimes in one country to the jurisdiction of the other. No extradition shall take place until compelling evidence has been presented and the country who would be granting extradition is satisfied that Articles four and seven of the Mundus Convention of Universal Rights will be met.

(7) Kodumaa is welcome to join the Southern Ardian New Electorate, or SANE, any time.

Section II - Trade

(8) The parties pledge to trade fairly with each other and to respect the lawful commerce of each party.

(9) Neither of the parties shall create taxes, limits, bans, or quotas on the goods or services of the other party on basis of their origin from the other party, with exception to such taxes, limits, bans, or quotas created by international organizations of which the parties are members thereof.

(10) The parties recognize the right of free commercial navigation through the waters and airspace of the other party, with adherence to local laws and procedures.

(11) The parties agree to build a passenger and cargo rail line connecting the capitals of SANE members, namely: Lungsod, Metria, and Nanjing, to the city of Stolitsa.

“Feel free to change any detail you may find that needs changing.”

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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2020, 10:01:42 AM »
The Empress inspected the document and responded as she was reading. "I feel like there is more this treaty. This looks rather standard so far, so yes I will sign for this extension. I take it the next section is military in nature...Or not?" She saw the King trying not to admire the room but brushed it off. "If it were up to me I would have this room remodeled...Something less...Gaudy." She said while she smiled to King Lapu.

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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2020, 06:02:55 PM »
“Well I suppose you’re correct, the next section would focus more towards defense.” The King replied, as he handed out a copy of the treaty to the Empress. "Her majesty can change any part you don't deem fit."

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Section III - Defense and Security

(12) Both parties shall desist from any act of violence, any aggressive action, and any attack on each other, either individually or jointly with other powers.

(13) An armed attack on one party shall be considered an attack on both parties.

(14) The parties agree to share military intelligence that is believed to be in the interest of the safety and security of the other, so long as doing so does not compromise the safety or security of themselves.

(15) The parties agree to an annual officer exchange between their armed forces to promote cooperation between their armed forces.

(16) In the interest of security and mutual defense the two parties give permission and access to military vessels through each of the other High Contracting Party's territorial waters under the following conditions

(a) An official communique shall be sent to the other Party's High Command as to the reason why military vessels are entering territorial waters.
(b) Prior to entering territorial waters a naval route, compliment, and plan shall be sent. Vessels shall not deviate from planned routes unless requested by the other party or it is in response to a SOS call.
(c) Neither of the two parties shall conduct military maneuvers in the others Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) without prior authorization.
(d) Continual communication shall be maintained while military vessels of one party are within the territorial waters of the other.
(e) The vessels shall at all times except where otherwise explicitly accounted for act in accordance with the Fair Seas Concordat.

(17) In addition to Section 17, military aircraft passing through each of the other High Contracting Party's territorial airspace under the following conditions

(a) An official communique shall be sent to the other Party's High Command as to the reason why military aircrafts are entering territorial waters.
(b) Prior to entering territorial airspace a flight route, compliment, and plan shall be sent. Aircrafts shall not deviate within 1 kilometer from planned routes unless requested by the other party or it is in response to a SOS call.
(c) Neither of the two parties shall conduct military maneuvers in the others airspace without prior authorization.
(d) Continual communication shall be maintained while military aircraft of one party are within the territorial airspace of the other.

“As for this room, I wouldn’t want to change it. I assume it has witnessed centuries worth of history and remodeling it will take some of its historical significance.” King Lapu countered at the Empress, smiling back. “With that said, it’s not the glistening golden patterns that I’m very fond of, rather it’s the domes and arching structures that I was focusing on.” He persisted in talking about architecture, trying to boast his knowledge on the subject.

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Re: The Three Idiots and Kodumaa (Attn: Viljandi and SANE members)
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2020, 08:42:45 AM »
She took the rest of the draft and escorted them to their intended meeting room.


there isn't anything here that I fundamentally disagree with. How do you people feel about extradition? Also going back to economics. How do you people feel towards eventual visa free agreement?"

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2020, 06:56:08 PM »
"For extradition, maybe you could expound more into how it would work for us? We may incorporate it to the SANE charter if we deem it would fit." The King replied, sitting more comfortably on his back rather than standing for the whole meeting. “And as for the visa-free agreement, I think we covered it in the Diplomacy Section, Clause 5 reading:”

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(5) The parties shall allow citizens of the other nation to apply for a fast track visas aiding in travel between the two nations for purpose of trade, recreation, and business. These visas shall be available to anyone who meets the following criteria

(a) Has a stay lasting no longer than 100 days
(b) Has a return ticket
(c) Is able to fund the duration of their stay.
(d) Has no criminal record
(e) Is not deemed a threat to national security.
(f) All requirements have been fulfilled in accordance to local laws and procedures when conducting trade and/or business.

“I think we can change it depending on how many days of visa-free travel between our nations you would like. I would however like to let you know that as per the SANE Charter, 30-days of travel is allowed between SANE nations. So if you’d join SANE, it would be redundant if we included that.”

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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2020, 09:33:19 AM »
"Ah well the Visa agreement I agree with. Now in terms of extradition. I would basically elaborate it as have a mutual agreement with all governments and their law enforcement authorities to ensure the criminals or enemies of the state cannot seek refuge in eachothers nations to avoid justice and the law. I'm sure we can all benefit or agree with that correct?"

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2020, 05:16:57 PM »
“Well then, we can add it in a special agreements article.” King Lapu replied. “And in addition to the extradition clause, I would also like to introduce a project that could promote trade between Kodumaa and your neighbors.” He pulled out a document from his case. “This is the official agreement for the Southern Line currently being built by SANE members, along with Ui Cenneslaig and Cantabria, could expand to Kodumaa.” He handed the page to the Empress, which read:

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SOUTHERN ARDIAN LINE AGREEMENT
1) Each nation to ensure that by 2022 they have a nominated railway route linking their capital to their neighbour which is capable of reaching at least 200kph.

2) Each nation to ensure by 2022 that their capitals main railway station has a dedicated platform for the Southern Line.

3) Nations will be responsible for acquiring the funding for their section of the line.

4) Nations agree to access for all people to the line however retain the right to refuse any individual the right to leave the train within their nation.

5) Nations agree that they shall become an equal shareholder in Southern Line Rolling Stock (SLRS).

6) Nations may distribute their shares however they wish. (i.e Should a nation wish to sell off their shares to private companies they may)

7) Nations agree to appoint a President to oversee daily operations of SLRS.

Signed by representatives of:
Ui Cenneslaig
Cantabria
New Derusmia
Second Imperial Chinese Republic, and
Quintelia

“With that said, are there any other matters you would like to include?”

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2020, 12:17:01 AM »
The Empress looked at the section closely. "There is nothing here that I contend with. However do you think 2 years is enough? I mean to scout a firm write up tenders for contracts, not to mention building railway lines and connecting them to the capitals as well as insuring the constancy of the train lines...I would think that would span over at least 5 years...I like the idea don't get me wrong your highness. I just have the issue of the time frame."

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2020, 02:54:08 PM »
Feish looked up from the charter and up to Empress Sygvaldi.

“Your highness, if I may address you as such, I can understand that you may have some concerns over how much time it would take to construct something of this scale. When this charter was first written, not much consideration was given to the fact that other nations may want to join in with the project.”

Now sitting up straight, Ebston continued.

“A highly mountainous nation such as Kodumaa would take a much longer time to construct rail lines due to its terrain, so hopefully, we should be able to change the time restraints to accommodate for this. As for the paperwork, I assume that can be finished off in a year or two.”

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2020, 11:40:10 AM »
Jinduming shifted quietly in his seat. As Feish finished, he added, "Of course, in the interest of solidarity, the SICR can lend its industry and some engineers to assist Koduuman efforts on the rail system. If more personnel are required, we'd be only happy to send a full division of the Imperial Engineer Corps to help in the construction. After all, we are all neighbors, are we not?"
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2020, 12:24:12 PM »
Ebston broke a smile. "Indeed." he replied to Jinduming. He then turned to the Empress.

"Now, are there any more matters relating to the Southern Line, or shall we go on with the treaty?"